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[Cave Dweller]

Funny thing today. A Korean lady was telling me about Mrs Jasmine Lee, a filipino who is in the Korean national assembly with the ruling party.

She is ready to get a law passed in Korea 'protects' illegal immigrants. Basically, she wants illegals to get a whole bunch of rights that citizens and legal aliens get. Furthermore, she wants the children of illegals to be afforded all the rights and privileges of Koreans. Free education, health care, sponsored childcare, etc. And when they turn 18, a Korean passport in hand. No army service because they are 'foreigners'.

You'd think Korea would look at western countries and realize that multiculturalism is a big failure of an experiment. Putting a sign on the peninsula saying 'free money here' is a huge mistake.

This is all the while the Kovernment has been slashing benefits for the people, raising taxes (25% in the last 5 years). This country needs more mouths to feed like it needs a hole in the head. Especially with the possibility of reunification looming.

[Cave Dweller]

The funny and ironic thing is, while this lady is telling me about this, I am laughing because they are the same things that so many westerners have complained about but were called 'racists.' Because I don't want to pay for other people to live when I barely have enough for myself.

[drydell]

I'm somehow doubting your slanted version of this is the whole story. One thing is certain though - korea is a demographic aging population time bomb waiting to happen.. The government knows this and realizes that immigration is one of the most practical solutions. That's why even the rightwing parties have passed legislation giving more support for multi-national families..

[jvalmer]

[Cave Dweller]

If you doubt my story, look up Jasmine Lee and the law(s) she is trying to pass.

I am not necessarily against immigration. Controlled immigration of the right people is the way to go. Not opening the flood gates to anyone who has enough for a one-way ticket here and looking for a handout. Or you end up like the EU.

[Coltronator]

She wants the children to have the same citizenship by location of birth instead of parental nationality.

Canada & U.S. plus others are already this way.

[Who's Your Daddy?]

Jasmine Lee is only one vote in the congress, not a dictator.

The bigger worry is the expansion of the welfare state for Koreans. The health care for elderly, free school lunches for non-poor children.

And these things are like the deck chairs on the Titanic vs. reunification.

Foreigners are just a media distraction.

[Newbie]

Multiculturalism is a failed experiment?

When did that happen?

Granted, I only live in one of the most multicultural cities in the world (Toronto) and every day see Brits, French, Irish, Germans, Italians, Ukranians, Russians, Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Indians, Sri Lankans, Pakistanis, Arabs, Persians, Africans, Christians, Muslims, Jews, Atheists, Straight and LGBT, all living together and getting along with almost no hate crime and relative peace, and prospering, so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but...

Sure, there are occasional problems and to the small-minded there seems to be some segregation, but that's always been there and always passes. 150 years ago when the Irish came in big numbers, they stuck to themselves and the established Europeans complained about them not adapting. But after a generation or two they eventually became Canadian. Then after WW2 when the Italians came in heavy numbers, the Irish-Canadians and established Europeans complained about their strange food, strange smells, only speaking Italians, "ghettos", and them not adapting. But after a generation or two they eventually became Canadian. Throughout that time, and near the end of the 20th century when Chinese numbers really picked up again, the Canadians complained about their strange food, smells, only speaking Chinese, "ghettos", and them not adapting. But we now have Chinese people as Canadian as the original Europeans, Irish and Italians, and Chinese kids now who are more Canadian than Chinese. (repeat same exercise with chosen ethnicity: Ukranian, Polish, Indian, Arabic, Jamaican, etc.)

And now the target is SE Asians and Muslims. The recent immigrants, sure, just like the Irish, Italians, Chinese et al before them, seem to be sticking to themselves and not adapting. But in a generation or two that will change. It always has, and will continue to do so. We can already see that with second and third generation SE Asian and Arab Canadians who are just about as Canadian as any French, British, Irish, Italian, Chinese Canadians who've been here for generations.

[metalhead]

You still have to pay for tertiary education in Canada though, Scandinavia and other parts of Europe has you beat.

[northway]

[metalhead]

[Cave Dweller]

She is one vote, but she also has people that agree with her. The bill could be passed. It will make this place a socialist nightmare of high taxes but without any real benefits.

I pay a low rate of tax here but I know the average Korean pays a fair bit. What they receive for that money...I have no clue. Health care isn't covered with tax. Most of the army are conscripts with almost no pay. They give very little foreign aid and their welfare system is much less than the west. My guess is roads and subway lines that continue to be built. If not that, I have no idea.

[atwood]

[Chaparrastique]

[jvalmer]