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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:48 pm    Post subject: Hogwon owner kills kid Reply with quote

Ok, my title is a bit sensationalist, but after reading the article, is it really that far off the mark?

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2015/04/116_176379.html

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A six-year-old girl was pronounced dead at a hospital after falling out of a Taekwando academy bus, Yongin Police Department confirmed Wednesday.

On Monday, the girl surnamed Yang fell out of the hagwon car due to the unlocked door that had swung open as it drove, resulting in a severe head injury with external bleeding.

"The car drove abruptly without even checking if the door was closed properly, and my baby just dropped out on to the streets," Yang's mother was quoted as saying.

The hagwon had reportedly put Yang back in the car and drove back to the hagwon in order to take the other students in for class.

An ambulance was called after a period of 10 minutes after arriving at the hagwon.


Firefighters were quoted as saying that the girl was taken to the emergency room at "a distance from the site of the accident," and that her breathing seemed to be getting weaker when they first saw her.

"At first she did have a pulse, but by the time we reached the hospital, it was almost gone," a firefighter said.

The students that had been in the same car as Yang are currently in a state of shock.

A fellow student's mother said, "I have to give my kids a tranquilizer or something, because he keeps saying that he's scared and won't even talk to me."

There were no assistant teachers in supervision at the time of Yang's accident, nor were there proper safety checks for belts and doors, the police confirmed.

Police are to file an arrest warrant for the driver surnamed Kim, 36, within today.


Driver = owner of the taekwondo school.


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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a country!
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Smithington



Joined: 14 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a terrible story. And so very Korean in content. Absolutely nothing has been learned since the ferry disaster. Same nonsense.

What a terribly unnecessary way to lose a child. I feel awful for the parents.


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jazzmaster



Joined: 30 Sep 2013

PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a terrible story. Mistake upon mistake upon mistake.

The parents must be devastated.
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FDNY



Joined: 27 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yaya wrote:
What a country!


Hey man! Why so negative about Korea? What's going on man?

Rolling Eyes
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Chaparrastique



Joined: 01 Jan 2014

PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
Hogwon owner kills kid


When kids have accidents, most hakwons are reluctant to send the kid to hospital or call emergency services.

They give it ten minutes to see if the kid recovers first. Because drawing attention to accidents unnecessarily can have a massive negative impact to your business.

The whole legal liability often means no more field trips, games or activities (too dangerous).

Basically at the end of the day you can't do anything with the kids except have really boring classes where they are sitting all the time. Because doing anything exciting is too risky.


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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smithington wrote:
What a terrible story. And so very Korean in content. Absolutely nothing has been learned since the ferry disaster. Same nonsense.

Yes, compare some small business owner's safety management to some transportation company carrying 1000's of passengers a day...
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3DR



Joined: 24 May 2009

PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:
Smithington wrote:
What a terrible story. And so very Korean in content. Absolutely nothing has been learned since the ferry disaster. Same nonsense.

Yes, compare some small business owner's safety management to some transportation company carrying 1000's of passengers a day...


Lol I know right?
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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3DR wrote:
jvalmer wrote:
Smithington wrote:
What a terrible story. And so very Korean in content. Absolutely nothing has been learned since the ferry disaster. Same nonsense.

Yes, compare some small business owner's safety management to some transportation company carrying 1000's of passengers a day...


Lol I know right?

The root cause was the same--profit before people.
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chaparrastique wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
Hogwon owner kills kid


When kids have accidents, most hakwons are reluctant to send the kid to hospital or call emergency services.

They give it ten minutes to see if the kid recovers first. Because drawing attention to accidents unnecessarily can have a massive negative impact to your business.

The whole legal liability often means no more field trips, games or activities (too dangerous).

Basically at the end of the day you can't do anything with the kids except have really boring classes where they are sitting all the time. Because doing anything exciting is too risky.


What a load of bullshit. My kid's school does outings twice a week. They are not worried about legal liability. Kids are kids and they do get hurt sometimes and the teachers deal with the situations accordingly. Parents are warned on orientation day that outings are common and if you are worried about them getting dirty or whatever the parents are told upfront to take their kid to another school. And the reason the owner of the school can say that to parents is because his school is one of the best ones around.
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nicwr2002



Joined: 17 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That very next day there was another accident, but this time only the driver was injured for not wearing his seat belt. All of the other kids were buckled up, but the driver forgot to put his on after helping and checking all the kids.
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Died By Bear



Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee

PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't imagine what the parents are going through right now. To lose your child to something so senseless and avoidable. What do you guys think will happen? Driver's going to get jail time obviously, what about monetary compensation for the parents? Can they sue the school? If it's a mom n pop school, I'd imagine they're filing for bankruptcy right about now and booking tickets for the U.S.A. or some other country.
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Bongotruck



Joined: 19 Mar 2015

PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many many lessons to be learned here. Among them, if anyone here owns their own hagwon and employs drivers, you can be sued if he/she screws up.

If anyone on here is in that situation, check and double check. Micromanage your drivers if you have to. And follow the law with having parent helpers in the back. As annoying as it can be.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bongotruck wrote:
Many many lessons to be learned here. Among them, if anyone here owns their own hagwon and employs drivers, you can be sued if he/she screws up.

If anyone on here is in that situation, check and double check. Micromanage your drivers if you have to. And follow the law with having parent helpers in the back. As annoying as it can be.

The lesson is don't shuttle your customers around. But I think that might be a death sentence for a hagwon, unless all the others decide to stop driving their customers around.

There will always be accidents, and deaths. Can't predict it.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FDNY wrote:
Yaya wrote:
What a country!


Hey man! Why so negative about Korea? What's going on man?

Rolling Eyes


Negative about practices in this country, but I guess that's above your level.
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