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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 10:02 am    Post subject: Taxes to double next year? Reply with quote

Asking because another foreigner said his accountant said this will happen next year. Of course, it's just a rumor at this point. Hope it's not true. If I wanted to pay Canadian style taxes and have a more expensive cost of living, I'd live in Canada where things actually make sense. Up till now, the lower taxation and cheaper living cost made this country worth the other BS you have to endure. Anyways, hope it's just a farce. Just posting to see if the rest of you have heard this at all?
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course, it's hard to find things online in English. So far, this is all I could find. It does seem we pay a bit more than before.

http://www.korea4expats.com/article-income-taxes.html

(We use to get a 30% deduction and haven't for a while. Though I had heard this.)
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It wouldn't surprise me. Taxes have been slowly rising over the past few years and many deductions eliminated. ETs don't see it as much as people in higher tax brackets but the trend is certainly there. Ask a person legally making 70 million won a year how things have changed over the last few years. They will tell you.
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Bongotruck



Joined: 19 Mar 2015

PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only benefit I can see from tax here seems to be shoveling money to the few people who are still having kids. I seriously wonder where Korea's tax revenue is going.

On a lighter note, I got back all of the tax deducted from my cheques last year save the residence tax.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stan Rogers wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me. Taxes have been slowly rising over the past few years and many deductions eliminated. ETs don't see it as much as people in higher tax brackets but the trend is certainly there. Ask a person legally making 70 million won a year how things have changed over the last few years. They will tell you.


Ah, no wonder the Korean economy is suffering then. More taxes lead to slowed growth. Korea will probably follow the Japan economic model then?
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Coltronator



Joined: 04 Dec 2013

PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah got no problem with this. My Taxes (& Tax like payroll deductions for Health and Pension) amount to 9% per year. Only 4% or so is actual tax. If my taxes for someone making 40k a year go up to 8% I congratulate Korea on their sensible and responsible solution to their budget problems so taht they can continue to provide Free lunches to all Elementary school students & 90% subsidized Daycare until age 8 and a national health program that covers 50% and regulations that keep costs to 10% of America's (For a total of 5% the cost of U.S.)

It was either that or get rid of either the Lunches or Daycare and then which ever party pushed for that would face hell come election time. This not only the best thing to be proposed but also the one people would gripe about the least.

Add in that someone in the 40-60k bracket actually only has a 50% Tax increase (so 4% to 6%). Lower is affected even less (or not at all in some proposals) and well it gets my blessing for being one of the most progressive actions by an OECD nation in the last 5 years.
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coltronator wrote:
provide Free lunches to all Elementary school students

Like to point out this is only true in some jurisdictions. Mainly Seoul/Gyeonggi. The students in my province have to pay something like 3100 a meal. I do believe lower income families do get discouts on it.

I too don't have a problem with rising taxes. I just hope one day a really brave major economy will start some kind of unconditional basic income progam. Kind of like the one the Swiss were talking about.
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Coltronator



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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most jurisdictions. Gyeongsam Buk/Nam, Gyeonggi, Seoul, Busan, Ulsan, Daegu.

The only ones who don't are a few DUP controlled MOEs (not all because it makes parents angry and they don't want bad press or think it isn;t a giid idea) make their own choices on how to meet their budget shortfalls. So they eliminate it.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coltronator wrote:
Most jurisdictions. Gyeongsam Buk/Nam, Gyeonggi, Seoul, Busan, Ulsan, Daegu.

The only ones who don't are a few DUP controlled MOEs (not all because it makes parents angry and they don't want bad press or think it isn;t a giid idea) make their own choices on how to meet their budget shortfalls. So they eliminate it.

You are wrong on Gyeongsangbuk, and Gyeongnam only provides it to poor students. Not sure about Daegu, Busan and Ulsan, but I suspect it's not free for all.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coltronator wrote:
Yeah got no problem with this. My Taxes (& Tax like payroll deductions for Health and Pension) amount to 9% per year. Only 4% or so is actual tax. If my taxes for someone making 40k a year go up to 8% I congratulate Korea on their sensible and responsible solution to their budget problems so taht they can continue to provide Free lunches to all Elementary school students & 90% subsidized Daycare until age 8 and a national health program that covers 50% and regulations that keep costs to 10% of America's (For a total of 5% the cost of U.S.)

It was either that or get rid of either the Lunches or Daycare and then which ever party pushed for that would face hell come election time. This not only the best thing to be proposed but also the one people would gripe about the least.

Add in that someone in the 40-60k bracket actually only has a 50% Tax increase (so 4% to 6%). Lower is affected even less (or not at all in some proposals) and well it gets my blessing for being one of the most progressive actions by an OECD nation in the last 5 years.


Either way the economy is slowing here for a reason and tax hikes are not the best for it. Do governments need to provide school lunches for everyone who isn't poor? Also, I'm sure with more tax hikes they will waste it on other things. Ever hear of the four rivers project? There's a reason why Canada is such a high price high cost of living rip off. Shame as cheap living costs were nice here. In Canada, you really have to be a high income professional to have a high quality of life due to everything being so damn expensive. At least here with things being cheaper even poorer people have it somewhat easier. As for health, we already pay the health tax.

Either way, every country that has gone through high taxes has had high unemployment.
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

6%, 15%, 24%, 35%, 38%

It maxes out at around 40%.

Most of us will be in that 6% to 15% bracket of the amount we earn above 10-ish million won. Hardly that high.
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Stan Rogers



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Weigookin74.[/quote]

Do governments need to provide school lunches for everyone who isn't poor? [/quote]

I say everyone should get the free stuff or nobody should get it. Tax payers should be first on the list to get 'free' stuff because they are paying for it.
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Weigookin74



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stan Rogers wrote:
[quote="Weigookin74.


Do governments need to provide school lunches for everyone who isn't poor? [/quote]

I say everyone should get the free stuff or nobody should get it. Tax payers should be first on the list to get 'free' stuff because they are paying for it.[/quote]

That makes no sense. But if everyone gets it, they will definitely pay for it and pay much much more in the years to come. These things along with the four rivers projects and others will put up taxes a lot. No one is talking about not helping the poor, but there is such a thing as smart and efficient management of money.
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wooden nickels



Joined: 23 May 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no such thing as a free lunch. Someone has to pay for it. Example: me, the tax payer. If you can't afford to feed your kids, don't have them.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
These things along with the four rivers projects and others will put up taxes a lot.

You do realize the Four Rivers Project is over, done, dead?
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