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Adam Carolla
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
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| I do miss the huge paid vacation which is one of the better perks of the job. |
Interesting. Back in July you said
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| No I don't get that much I get 38 days annual leave in total, |
at your current job.
As far as I know public school teachers in Korea get 20 days holiday plus 16 national holidays = only 36 days annual leave
Hagwan workers get less 10 days plus public holidays = 26 days annual leave.
Maybe you were at a university and forgot to mention it? |
Before the advent of summer and winter English camps, I think public school teachers used to have the entire break off. (I could be wrong on this but I have vague recollections that public teachers used to have pretty good vaction schedules.)
Also, he may have worked at a private school. My last private school had 7-8 weeks vacation + national holidays. |
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hagwonnewbie
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Asia
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| Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:30 am Post subject: |
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As far as I know, Korea is the only country in Asia that requires teachers to teach 30 hours a week. There are sweeter gigs, but that's par. It's a good place for teachers to start, but if you really want to upgrade your life and career significantly, you'd best move on to another country with more reasonable conditions.
The reality is that the less hours your contracted to teach and work, the more money you'll make on the side. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| hagwonnewbie wrote: |
As far as I know, Korea is the only country in Asia that requires teachers to teach 30 hours a week. There are sweeter gigs, but that's par. It's a good place for teachers to start, but if you really want to upgrade your life and career significantly, you'd best move on to another country with more reasonable conditions.
The reality is that the less hours your contracted to teach and work, the more money you'll make on the side. |
30 hours a week is par for hakwons
22 hours a week is par for public schools...and in smaller rural schools even less. I've seen several schedules that (in terms of hours worked) seemed pretty good. One guy taught 18 hours a week and another taught only 13 hours a week. That would seem like too much free time (at least for me)...but different strokes for different folks |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:03 am Post subject: |
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| There are way more hagwon jobs than public school jobs. Most E-2s don't have a public school job. (They're not easy to get anymore.) |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| World Traveler wrote: |
| There are way more hagwon jobs than public school jobs. Most E-2s don't have a public school job. (They're not easy to get anymore.) |
The poster I was responding to never said anything about hakwons vs public school. He said that
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| Korea is the only country in Asia that requires teachers to teach 30 hours a week. There are sweeter gigs, but that's par |
I merely pointed out that it depends on your employer and type of school you are in. But if it comes to that, there are WAY more public schools than hakwons. (this was threshed out in one of the public schools vs hakwons threads ages ago)
And do you by any chance have any source for your claim that most E-2's don't have a public school job? |
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JohnML
Joined: 05 Jul 2015
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:20 am Post subject: |
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| There are definitely not way more public school positions at least open positions, than hagwon ones. That's the first time I've ever seen anyone suggest such a thing. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| source for your claim that most E-2's don't have a public school job? |
Roughly 5K in public. Roughly 15 K in hagwons. (Both of these numbers are down.)
Google.com |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
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As far as I know, Korea is the only country in Asia that requires teachers to teach 30 hours a week. There are sweeter gigs, but that's par. It's a good place for teachers to start, but if you really want to upgrade your life and career significantly, you'd best move on to another country with more reasonable conditions.
The reality is that the less hours your contracted to teach and work, the more money you'll make on the side. |
30 hours a week is par for hakwons
22 hours a week is par for public schools...and in smaller rural schools even less. I've seen several schedules that (in terms of hours worked) seemed pretty good. One guy taught 18 hours a week and another taught only 13 hours a week. That would seem like too much free time (at least for me)...but different strokes for different folks |
But, you're still at your school for 40 hours a week deskwarming. A few isolated rural areas may still let you go home when you are done. It use to be that way with me. As for the breaks some places gave the teachers the full break off. Others like mine sent me around to all the schools in my area doing English camps in the morning or sitting at the education office in the morning chilling. But, I only had half days during the vacation and could tack on an extra one or two days to each of my vacations (summer and winter).
In the semester, most schools did let me go home early and take off exam days. I also taught less than 22 hours. Nowadays and in recent years, it's always 22 hours and I must stay till 4:30. Some schools will let me go home early on exam days and when doing the English camps. Others will make you stay until 4:30 even on those days now. Also, 18 days vacation means 18 days vacation. Kind of blows, but the pay rate is much better than your typical 2.1 million hakwon I guess and the renewal allowance of 2.0 million comes in handy each year. |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:24 am Post subject: |
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Do people really still only make 2mil a month? Really?
I think you could make more at fast food back home for the same amount of work... |
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Fallacy
Joined: 29 Jun 2015
Location: ex-ROK
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 6:18 am Post subject: |
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| Agreed. In 2015, I would not come here to earn, or stay here if I earned, anything less than 3.0 per month. Absolute minimum for me. |
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