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indytrucks

Joined: 09 Apr 2003 Location: The Shelf
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Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Yaya wrote: |
| You point out Mr. O'Brien as a troll yet you mention nothing about the anti-Korea trolls on this board like Real Reality. |
The reason I point out Mr. O'Brien as a troll is inspired, in part, by the lengthy thread that was here a while ago about sock puppets. Mr. O'Brien is that obviously a troll/sock puppet, when people are baited by him, it is utterly baffling.
If anything, I find the anti-Korean trolls on this board to be more lame than Mr. O'Brien.
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| Very specious selection, dude. And his post wasn't a flame, it addressed a fact: most foreigners teaching English in Korea are Canucks; he just wants to know why. |
Really? Care to back that assertion up with tangible facts, examples or statistic?
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| I guess the message is that you can say whatever about Korea but Canada is off limits, eh? Classic case of "I can dish it out but can't take it" syndrome. |
The "message" you describe came from you, not me. You should learn not to put words in other people's mouths, Skippy. |
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Blind Willie
Joined: 05 May 2004
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Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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| indytrucks wrote: |
* SIGH *
I'll post what I wrote again, from another forum.
Ladies and Gentlemen of the Dave's ESL Board,
Mr. Brian O'Brien is a troll and a sock puppet. His thinly veiled attempt at debate is trolling of the first order, I'll give him that. Mr. O'Brein subscribes to the same tactics he lambastes Noam Chomsky for. It would be better for all concerned if Mr. O'Brien was simply ignored.
Why it takes pages of this snoozefest for people to clue in is absurd.
Sometimes, trolling this board is like shooting fish in a barrel. |
I'm going to have to apologise to the other smart people here, but Indytrucks wins the prize for the smartest post in this thread.
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just because

Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Location: Changwon - 4964
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Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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I know the OP is trolling but he does bring up a good point.
The majority of people i know are from Canada and more specifically three places, Toronto area, Nova Scotia and Newfoundland.
The ask them why there are so many here and I get 1 main answer the majority of the time.
1.The job situation back home for graduates is terrible and my uni debt is so bad that this is an easy was to pay it off and add some life experience most other people would never have.
So there is the answer Brian O'Brien. Very simple and to the point and a resonably fair answer. they are looking for other alternatives.
Nova Scotia and Newfoundland rely(or did rely) on fishing but nowdays this is no longer a viable economic source which has an onflow to the rest of the community which leads to less jobs. I would leave and look for adventure too.
If thats not a satisfactory answer then you my friend are not a curious observer but a shit stirrer.
Pretty good answer for an Australian.  |
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indytrucks

Joined: 09 Apr 2003 Location: The Shelf
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Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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I would say it used to be the case many ESLers here were from Canada, specifically the Atlantic Provinces. When I first arrived here, this much was true. The economic realities for new uni grads from Atlantic Canada warranted their coming here.
In the last four/five years or so, I would say there are an equal number of ESLers coming from all over; England, Aus, Ireland, NZ, South Africa, Scotland and Wales. I don't think NAmericans outnumber anyone anymore. As a matter of fact, where I work now, NAmericans are outnumbered by our counterparts from Europe and Oceania.
I do not, however, have any statistics to back these ideas up. My assertions are pure conjecture. Anyone who has any hard numbers, please post them.
There. All done. Mr. Trollsockpuppet, you go shush now. |
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Blind Willie
Joined: 05 May 2004
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Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Yaya wrote: |
| I guess the message is that you can say whatever about Korea but Canada is off limits, eh? Classic case of "I can dish it out but can't take it" syndrome. |
Don't you know what "Flame-bait" is?
Wait!
Of course you do.
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| I would say it used to be the case many ESLers here were from Canada, specifically the Atlantic Provinces. When I first arrived here, this much was true. The economic realities for new uni grads from Atlantic Canada warranted their coming here. |
This is all true.
But you know what's funny?
What's funny is how some individuals see the idea of someone travelling around the world to WORK as some sort of character flaw.
"What, you travelled around the world to earn a living? Loser!"
There are some twisted people out there, wouldn't you agree?
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Crois

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: You could be next so watch out.
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Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| indytrucks wrote: |
| In the last four/five years or so, I would say there are an equal number of ESLers coming from all over; England, Aus, Ireland, NZ, South Africa, Scotland and Wales. I don't think NAmericans outnumber anyone anymore. As a matter of fact, where I work now, NAmericans are outnumbered by our counterparts from Europe and Oceania. |
I'm so glad you mentioned my country Wales.  |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Because they know that the US will retaliate against them if they stay in Canada for bombing the Baldwin House during the South Park Movie
BLAME CANADA!!! BLAME CANADA!!!!!!! |
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jazblanc77

Joined: 22 Feb 2004
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 12:13 am Post subject: |
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| Ok, Brian, what's with the obsession? Almost every single post you make is about Canada. There are other things to focus on in the world. |
I think Brian is someone who just likes to rock the boat a bit however he is able. Notice that he's usually speaking out of his arse and therefore abandons his threads rather quickly. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 12:52 am Post subject: |
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Economic reasons mostly. Do you think anyone in their right mind would come here if it weren't for the promise of the money they can save? I sure wouldn't have. Sure, I've had jobs where I made more, back home, but most of it went to taxes and work related expenses. Not much hope of saving money, then tack on the seasonal work factor and you can see why I'm here.
I was tired of nearly starving to death every winter, and having to rack up my credit cards at the start of spring season because I had no money to prepare for work next spring. I also got tired of being on unemployment every winter. I am thankful that it was available to me, but I sure don't want to make it a lifetime career, like a lot of people do back home.
I had to get out in order to break the cycle. I may whine a lot about Korea, but I sure can save money here. So there's my answer.
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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 1:48 am Post subject: |
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A poster on this thread figures Canadians are 'more adventurous than Americans'. I don't know if I agree with that. I think America is 'it' to alot of Americans, perhaps, so why go anywhere? Maybe. When I was down in Thailand there was no shortage of Americans, and Thailand is an adventure.
I wonder why there are so many Canadians, as well. I'm Canadian, from Saskatchewan, which is an economic backwater. There could just as easily be a lot of people from South Africa, U.S., Britain, but Canadians make the majority; is it fifty percent here? |
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Crois

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: You could be next so watch out.
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 2:08 am Post subject: |
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All canadians are massed produced in factories arent they???  |
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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 2:15 am Post subject: |
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| Close. We're grown on plantations next to the Douglas Firs, Scotch Pines, and other Christmas trees shipped (mostly to the U.S.). At night we sleep in dirt to refresh our roots. My mother sends me Canadian dirt every Christmas. |
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Crois

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: You could be next so watch out.
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 2:58 am Post subject: |
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| So it's true. Invasion of the body snatchers. |
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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 3:03 am Post subject: |
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| Yes. Soon it will be all 'Canadians' in control here. The Koreans think they are taking home a suba melon but in fact it's another 'Canadian'. |
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Crois

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: You could be next so watch out.
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 3:10 am Post subject: |
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Ah thats why they are sooo popular in the markets here.
So how would we change because our clone would be acting Canadian? |
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