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lepid gecko
Joined: 28 May 2004
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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| personally i don't wipe out entire genres as all bad. depending on my mood it can be pleasant. But with pop anyway, I'm more interested in production quality. |
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Alias

Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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I get to hear the latest Korean pop/hip hop while I'm working out at the gym. I also catch it on Korean MTV sometimes as well.
Did you hear the new one from Baby VOX? "How do you want me baby?" It is painfully bad. I know English isn't their first language but I don't think it matters much. The song is just horrific.
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Demophobe

Joined: 17 May 2004
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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Well then, most K-pop should be fine for you seeing as there often isn't a real instrument on the CDs.
Boxed music.
As far as production quality, it's top-notch.
But in most K-pop, there is really nothing to get in the way of a polished final product. One live vocal track, digitized and filtered beyond recognition.
Only in an analog world is production quality still an issue. K-pop is produced as inexpensively as possible...no hired musicians, fast studio times, digitized vocals so the singer can do one reasonable track and leave.
If you can find a program on TV where the singer isn't lip-syncing, you will notice the HUGE discrepancy between reality and CD.
In this situation, it's more like a public nori-bang. All of the cool dancing and fun are gone because no one could possibly do it while singing. Just standing there looking pretty, singing to mediocrity.
I hate to write off entire genres too, but with radio pop, it's a safe disposal. |
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003 Location: japan is better than korea.
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 12:02 am Post subject: |
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i heard one korean band i really really like... l'arc en ciel. they sound like weezer or the knack, only with john entwistle or geezer butler playing bass.
it's a really cool sound.
i think korean hiphop artists are cheaters because everything ends in "YO" here already... |
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skinhead

Joined: 11 Jun 2004
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 12:31 am Post subject: |
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| i think korean hiphop artists are cheaters because everything ends in "YO" here already... |
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Apple Scruff
Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 1:43 am Post subject: |
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| This post was all about Korean pop/r&b music. Don't even get me started on Korean hip-hop. |
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matthewwoodford

Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: Location, location, location.
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 1:54 am Post subject: |
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| Korean pop music is lunch-losingly bad but so is most pop music everywhere. |
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iain77
Joined: 12 Apr 2004 Location: here, now
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 1:59 am Post subject: |
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| Horrible, horrible stuff. I thought western pop music was bad (it is), but the poster who said (i forget who) that not knowing the words makes it that much more terrible is on to something. I was in a bar last night with some co-workers, friday night, and everyone's listening to this horrible dreck, I seriously thought about jumping through a plate glass window. I would've died a happy man, falling seven stories to my death, shouting the words to a REAL song. Blechh. No, double blechh. I second the notion of force-feeding them some Black Flag records. |
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Corporal

Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 2:08 am Post subject: Re: Korean pop music is shockingly terrible |
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| girly-boys done up with hair and clothes that even Boy George would feel gay wearing. |
Do you want me to start Gay or a Stud part 2: New Beginnings?
Just say the word. |
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oneiros

Joined: 19 Aug 2003 Location: Villa Straylight
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 3:10 am Post subject: |
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| uberscheisse wrote: |
i heard one korean band i really really like... l'arc en ciel. they sound like weezer or the knack, only with john entwistle or geezer butler playing bass.
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l'Arc-en-Ciel is Japanese. If you like them, you should also check out Hyde's (the lead singer's) solo work.
All in all, I think the Japanese rock scene has more going for it than the Korean rock scene. Japan has their fair share of boy bands and pretty boy pop singers, but they've also got a lot of interesting metal/goth/alternative bands.
And some really interesting music videos. Check out Dir en Grey sometime, and you'll see what I mean. |
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phaedrus

Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Location: I'm comin' to get ya.
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 3:30 am Post subject: |
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| As long as it's a music video I find most pop music by female bands in Korea to be good. (only the over 18 bands) |
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TheMrCul

Joined: 09 May 2003 Location: Korea, finally...
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 3:31 am Post subject: |
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The Korean rappers are especially guilty of this. There was a very popular rap song a few years ago, with lyrics talking about how poor his family was. "Why do we always eat Ja-jang-myeon/ I love you mother, but I want to eat watermelon..."
Seriously, this was the song, set to some hardcore rap beat, with the singer vocalising in a "get out of my hood before I cap ya" attitude. |
Yeah, I had to study that song for year 12 Korean. I think it has some sort of significance for those who were around when Korea was like the Malaysia of yesterday and many people were very, very poor. But I agree that the way he expressed his lyrics left a little to be desired... [/i] |
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skinhead

Joined: 11 Jun 2004
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 3:50 am Post subject: |
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Oneiros, check out a disc called "Deflower" with a variety of metal, death, speed bands from Korea. Some of it's not bad.
A message from Mrs Skinny:
"It's like a national sport. If you don't grow up with Korean music, you won't understand, so you won't enjoy it. And I understand that Korean entertainmant (sic) industry is like a money making thing, all the record companies looking for singers handsome, pretty, well-rehearsed dancer, and actual singing itself is less important. Even singer themself they know that. All 'pop' industries are the same no matter where you go. Just in Korea, for foreigners, for them, that represent another thing to dislike about Korea.
I just wanna ask if anyone really know what the rappers or singers are really saying. Coz if you don't, you're missing big dimension of the music that Korean pop music fans like. Go to the Jazz bars in Shincheon, Taehangno, Hongdae, etc and get some exposure to great quality music played by real musicians. Don't judge all Korean music by what TV show only. Thassall"
Well put I'd say. Told ya she'd be upset. I still think pop sucks.
Love to you all, Skinny and Mrs Skinny |
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oneiros

Joined: 19 Aug 2003 Location: Villa Straylight
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 4:38 am Post subject: |
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| skinhead wrote: |
Oneiros, check out a disc called "Deflower" with a variety of metal, death, speed bands from Korea. Some of it's not bad.
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I agree, there are some not bad metal bands in Korea. If anyone's looking for the heavier side of the Korean music scene, I recommend checking out the Queen Live Hall in Seoul. It's in the Ewha women's university area, behind the Bennigans. They've usually got some good shows on. Check out their schedule at http://queenlive.co.kr/
In general, I still find the Japanese bands more intriguing. They certainly know how to put together an image.
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Wishmaster
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 5:15 am Post subject: |
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| Korean music sucks ass. Period. It all sounds the same and is just pure shit. |
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