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cacheSurfer



Joined: 07 Dec 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:51 pm    Post subject: Teaching Hours ? Reply with quote

30 hours per week.


1. Is that being at the hagwon for 6 hours? (i.e.- six 40/50 minute classes everyday)


2. Or is that 30 teaching hours?



thanx.
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oneiros



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on the school and the contract. Some of them give you the extra ten minutes for free. (ie 50 minutesx 30 classes a week)

Some of them want the whole thirty hours that they're paying you for.

edit: If the hogwan has 40 minute classes, expect to teach more than 30 classes a week.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Teaching Hours ? Reply with quote

cacheSurfer wrote:
30 hours per week.


1. Is that being at the hagwon for 6 hours? (i.e.- six 40/50 minute classes everyday)


2. Or is that 30 teaching hours?



thanx.

Most likely it would be #2, the hours that you are teaching in the classroom. The hours that you will need for prep, grading, teacher meetings, and so forth is most likely not part of the 30 hours. So you will most likely be there longer then 30 hours a week, but only teach total of 30 hours.
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cacheSurfer



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Teaching Hours ? Reply with quote

ghostshadow wrote:
cacheSurfer wrote:
30 hours per week.


1. Is that being at the hagwon for 6 hours? (i.e.- six 40/50 minute classes everyday)


2. Or is that 30 teaching hours?



thanx.

Most likely it would be #2, the hours that you are teaching in the classroom. The hours that you will need for prep, grading, teacher meetings, and so forth is most likely not part of the 30 hours. So you will most likely be there longer then 30 hours a week, but only teach total of 30 hours.



so are you saying.......nine 40 minute classes everyday.
Question

does anybody actually do that many classes per week?
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prosodic



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Teaching Hours ? Reply with quote

cacheSurfer wrote:
ghostshadow wrote:
cacheSurfer wrote:
30 hours per week.


1. Is that being at the hagwon for 6 hours? (i.e.- six 40/50 minute classes everyday)


2. Or is that 30 teaching hours?



thanx.

Most likely it would be #2, the hours that you are teaching in the classroom. The hours that you will need for prep, grading, teacher meetings, and so forth is most likely not part of the 30 hours. So you will most likely be there longer then 30 hours a week, but only teach total of 30 hours.



so are you saying.......nine 40 minute classes everyday.
Question

does anybody actually do that many classes per week?


There was a summer when I did nine 50 minute classes every day. I taught conversation from 7-8, composition from 8-9, grammar from 9-10, Toeic from 10-noon, listening comprehension from 5-7 pm, and composition again from 7-9 pm. It was horrible, but I survived. I couldn't have done it longer than the summer.
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Grotto



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 5:21 am    Post subject: arggghhhh Reply with quote

Some of them want the whole thirty hours that they're paying you for.
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NO Mad Exclamation Some of them want more than the 30 hours they are paying you for Exclamation

Never sign a contract for 30 hours a week Exclamation

You should only sign contracts that stipulate a maximum of 6 40-50 minute classes a day 5 days a week.

Hogwans keep ripping people off trying to make them work the full 1800 minutes a week. do the math 1800/40 = 45 classes a week/5 =9 classes a day...1800/50= 36 classes a week/5= 7 a day + one extra floater class.

Thats a whole hell of a lot of work and prep. Accept 5-6 50 minute classes a day. 6x50=300x5 days a week = 1500. Dont work for nothing Exclamation Anything over 6 classes a day should be overtime...INSIST on it Exclamation [/quote]
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cacheSurfer



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 5:35 am    Post subject: Re: arggghhhh Reply with quote

Grotto wrote:
Some of them want the whole thirty hours that they're paying you for.


Grotto wrote:
[NO Mad Exclamation Some of them want more than the 30 hours they are paying you for Exclamation

Never sign a contract for 30 hours a week Exclamation

You should only sign contracts that stipulate a maximum of 6 40-50 minute classes a day 5 days a week.

Hogwans keep ripping people off trying to make them work the full 1800 minutes a week. do the math 1800/40 = 45 classes a week/5 =9 classes a day...1800/50= 36 classes a week/5= 7 a day + one extra floater class.

Thats a whole hell of a lot of work and prep. Accept 5-6 50 minute classes a day. 6x50=300x5 days a week = 1500. Dont work for nothing Exclamation Anything over 6 classes a day should be overtime...INSIST on it Exclamation
[/quote]

that was my assumption.
30 hours=six 40/50 minute classes. (plus 1 hour of prep time everyday)
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oneiros



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd love to try this arguement back home.

"I know I said I'd work 40 hours a week, but I'm only going to work 50 minutes of every hour. I'm sorry." Very Happy

Heck, I don't mind getting paid for time I'm not actually working.
But if I've signed a contract that says I'll work 30 hours, I'm not going to throw a fit because my boss wants me to work more than 20-25. Similarily, I wouldn't be too happy if my boss came up to me after I signed the contract and said, "I'm sorry. An hour is actually 70 minutes."

If you only want to teach 30 classes a week, then sign a 30-class/week contract. Don't sign a 30 hour a week contract, and then be upset when that's what they expect.

Flame away. I know this is an unpopular opinion around here. All those contract law classes have had an unfortunate effect on me. Laughing Laughing[/b]
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 6:32 am    Post subject: