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kiwiboy_nz_99
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 Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:35 am Post subject: Is this racism? |
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Is it? Cause I don't know what racism is any more, been here too long, got all confused between cultural differences and racism. Anyway ...
Girl I'm seeing informs me that when she told her friends she was seeing a foreigner thier collective response ( every single one ) was to say "You must stop seeing him immediately, he's a foreigner".
So, what is this?
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kangnamdragon
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:38 am Post subject: |
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ignorance
BTW, I'm sorry this happened.
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Alyallen
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:43 am Post subject: |
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I would say ignorance. And perhaps discrimination. I'm unsure whether I would call it racism though. But like you, I'm not 100% sure what racism is anymore. So I looked it up...
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From www.m-w.com:
Main Entry: rac��ism
Pronunciation: 'rA-"si-z&m also -"shi-
Function: noun
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination
- rac��ist /-sist also -shist/ noun or adjective |
After looking at this definition, I'm thinking it would count as racism since what they said seems to imply some sort of prejudice. Did they say anything else besides that incredibly ignorant comment? |
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indytrucks
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:44 am Post subject: |
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rac��ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rszm)
n.
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
Foreigner = person of non-Korean heritage = person of a race different to Koreans
"Don't date him, he's a foreigner." = prejudice based on race = racist |
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kiwiboy_nz_99
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:51 am Post subject: |
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Did they say anything else besides that incredibly ignorant comment?
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No, out of tact my friend quickly moved the conversation on to something else ... |
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hellofaniceguy
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:06 am Post subject: |
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Come on now! Well all KNOW that koreans are the superior race in the world! And they think that dating or marrying a non korean is beneath their diginity! And will only screw them up more than they are by going "outside."
Silly me...I thought that koreans were educated and far above the inmaturity that they display and exhibit. |
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posco's trumpet
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 2:03 am Post subject: Re: Is this racism? |
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| kiwiboy_nz_99 wrote: |
"You must stop seeing him immediately, he's a foreigner".
So, what is this? |
It's a polite way of saying "you must stop seeing him immediately, he's a sheep-molester. He'll give you anthrax." |
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weatherman
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 2:06 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, I would have to say it is racism. Good luck with the relationship. |
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ulsanchris
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 2:25 am Post subject: |
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| my take on this is that her friends think that since you are a foriegner you are only using her as a bit of comfort and sex while you are in korea and that you have no intention of ever marrying her. Therefore she shouldn't waste anytime on you and go out with a korean guy who may marry her one day. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 2:39 am Post subject: |
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| ulsanchris wrote: |
| my take on this is that her friends think that since you are a foriegner you are only using her as a bit of comfort and sex while you are in korea and that you have no intention of ever marrying her. Therefore she shouldn't waste anytime on you and go out with a korean guy who may marry her one day. |
That's about it I'd say.
I had a similiar experience with my g/f. She told me awhile ago that she finally told a few of her friends that she was dating a foreigner. I asked what their reply was. She said, "they're worried". 
I'd say it's racism but not motivated by hate. Just ignorance. |
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danyuk
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Love hath no bounderies. If it's really love and she aint Christian you will find a way
I've bumped into loads who are married or getting married |
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danyuk
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 2:53 am Post subject: |
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| ulsanchris wrote: |
| my take on this is that her friends think that since you are a foriegner you are only using her as a bit of comfort and sex while you are in korea and that you have no intention of ever marrying her. Therefore she shouldn't waste anytime on you and go out with a korean guy who may marry her one day. |
maybe. a bit of both though i think |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:31 am Post subject: |
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| ulsanchris wrote: |
| my take on this is that her friends think that since you are a foriegner you are only using her as a bit of comfort and sex while you are in korea and that you have no intention of ever marrying her. Therefore she shouldn't waste anytime on you and go out with a korean guy who may marry her one day. |
Is this okay then? (black man complains about white gf's white friends in the UK) "girl I'm seeing informs me that when she told her friends she was seeing a BLACK MAN thier collective response ( every single one ) was to say "You must stop seeing him immediately, he's BLACK".
-many black men have a reputation for sleeping about and being disloyal in the UK. Is the above quote still not racist? |
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Homer
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:46 am Post subject: |
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Too bad this happened to you K-boy.
It sounds like a mix of ignorance, racism and of wehat Ulsanchris said.
Taking the statement as it is it could very well imply that they meant that foreigners here are seen as temporary residents who eventually leave, hence her friends might have been saying that she should stop the relationship as eventually you will leave.
Of course, this is unfair and reeks of generalisation.
So, in my opinion, based on the statement itself, it is most likely not pure and simple racism but more likely a mix of things.
An unfortunate turn of events. |
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sparkx
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:48 am Post subject: |
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| kiwiboy wrote: |
| Girl I'm seeing informs me that when she told her friends she was seeing a foreigner thier collective response ( every single one ) was to say "You must stop seeing him immediately, he's a foreigner". |
You'd be surprised just how frequent this reaction is...I experienced it myself and have heard a dozen similar stories.
It supports my theory that a foundation rattling social revolution is not on the horizon contrary to what has been predicted by many on this site. 99% of young koreans (19-30) are as if not more conservative than the generation preceeding them. More worldy? More aware of life outside the boundaries of the ROK? Meh...from my experiences this has the same effect as a frightened rabbit who, after building the courage to face the harsh elements of the surface, scurries back into his hole at the first sign of danger and digs himself in even deeper. |
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