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| koreans are racist and discriminate in the work place |
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| some do some dont but its ILLEGAL to do it in SK |
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| some do some dont but the government doesnt care cause its not illegal! |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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 Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 2:04 am Post subject: NO KYOPOS, NO BORN NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKER KOREANS! |
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ONLY FEMALES, ONLY NORTH AMERICANS, ONLY FOREIGNERS AGES 25-30 NO BLACKS! NO ASIANS! BLAR BLAR BLAR you all know what im talking about...
now this is plain racism in your face! this is discrimination up close and personal!
I dont know about other western countries.. but if that happened back home, ADVERTISED in papers like that!! your school would be closed!
your license would be taken away! and you would be fined!!
ITS ILLEGAL acually!
but in korea racial discrimination seems to be the norm in the working community!
do you see this coming to an end when korea becames a 1st world country
or this will never end?
I wouldnt send my child to a school which showed such racial discrimination like that! I would think the owner is a complent racist, ignorant TWIT and I would not want my child being educated in that enviorment!
what do you guys think of this issue?
NO kyopos..OK so now its marketing bankablity? see a big nose in the school will attract customers...???
who is ignorant here? the parents for being so stupid , KYOPOS are native speakers.. most the ones I know cant even speak KOREAN!! dont korean parents understand--- chinese/americans... japanese americans etc..---?
emmmm and the KIWI, OZZIE thing is funny too!! hahhahhaha
anyway what do you all make of this?
not only in the English school business.. it happens more in korean work places.. NO married woman! no handicap persons! no bla rblar blar |
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Mosley
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:44 am Post subject: |
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True, guy, but this ain't home. You see the same kind of ads in Japan. Here, it ain't "discrimination", just employers being upfront about who they want to hire.
I know you're not a newbie, so why are you so shocked/outraged now? |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:26 am Post subject: |
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True, guy, but this ain't home. You see the same kind of ads in Japan. Here, it ain't "discrimination", just employers being upfront about who they want to hire.
I know you're not a newbie, so why are you so shocked/outraged now? |
IM not! just thought I would just bring up the issue for debate. |
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FUBAR
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:58 am Post subject: |
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| Some of it is racism, some of it isn't. It sounds more like discrimination to me. |
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ladyandthetramp
Joined: 21 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 11:35 am Post subject: |
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| Mosley wrote: |
True, guy, but this ain't home. You see the same kind of ads in Japan. Here, it ain't "discrimination", just employers being upfront about who they want to hire.
I know you're not a newbie, so why are you so shocked/outraged now? |
If this isn't "discrimination," then what is "discrimination"? Think before you speak next time!  |
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Mosley
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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You didn't notice "discrimination" in quotation marks in my post?!
I'm not defending it-I'm just saying that that's the way it is over here & we'll all be long gone before it changes. The fact is, most E. Asian employers see nothing wrong in specifying the type of teacher THEY want & are puzzled/put off by Westerners who decry that practice. |
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Eazy_E
Joined: 30 Oct 2003
Location: British Columbia, Canada
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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When it came time to hire my replacement for this job, my boss initially had a bit of trouble finding someone "white" enough. He complained that the resumes that the recruiter submitted to him were those of people who looked Asian, some who were fat, etc.
Now Mr. Kim doesn't understand this any better than we do. He would just as soon hire a Kyopo; in fact he thinks it would be better to hire someone who knows something about Korean culture. He's an open-minded guy, but he's also a businessman. If his customers (the parents) are going to be put off by someone who is of Asian descent, overweight, etc. then he's going to just go with the slim, youthful whitie.
Remember that Korea is a very appearance-obsessed society, and this is reflected in the preference for a Nordic-looking white person to teach English to their kiddies. Haven't you seen those "hikers" who put on a 40L backpack and ice picks before they go for a walk in the hills? Appearance is everything here man... don't think we're immune just because of our Western concern for human rights. |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 9:59 pm Post subject: Re: NO KYOPOS, NO BORN NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKER KOREANS! |
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Corporal
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Playing the apologist for a minute and reminding y'all that anyone has a right to demand a certain kind of person to fill a certain kind of job.
Of course, I just say that because I'm young, white, female, and hot. But it's still true. |
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Saxiif
Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: Seongnam
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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Playing the apologist for a minute and reminding y'all that anyone has a right to demand a certain kind of person to fill a certain kind of job.
Of course, I just say that because I'm young, white, female, and hot. But it's still true. |
Why? |
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Eazy_E
Joined: 30 Oct 2003
Location: British Columbia, Canada
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 12:05 am Post subject: |
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| Corporal wrote: |
Playing the apologist for a minute and reminding y'all that anyone has a right to demand a certain kind of person to fill a certain kind of job.
Of course, I just say that because I'm young, white, female, and hot. But it's still true. |
If this kind of thinking were never challenged, Chinese-Canadians would still be slaving in laundries and general stores.... or getting blown up building tunnels for the railroads cuz the white guys wouldn't do it. |
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OiGirl
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 1:09 am Post subject: |
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| Eazy_E wrote: |
| Corporal wrote: |
Playing the apologist for a minute and reminding y'all that anyone has a right to demand a certain kind of person to fill a certain kind of job.
Of course, I just say that because I'm young, white, female, and hot. But it's still true. |
If this kind of thinking were never challenged, Chinese-Canadians would still be slaving in laundries and general stores.... or getting blown up building tunnels for the railroads cuz the white guys wouldn't do it. |
Do you eat chicken packaged in the US? Or wear t-shirts or stockings made in the US? Because that kind of thinking still runs rampant in the US and Mexicans will willingly do the work white guys (and black guys) won't do. |
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Alyallen
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 1:18 am Post subject: |
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| OiGirl wrote: |
| Eazy_E wrote: |
| Corporal wrote: |
Playing the apologist for a minute and reminding y'all that anyone has a right to demand a certain kind of person to fill a certain kind of job.
Of course, I just say that because I'm young, white, female, and hot. But it's still true. |
If this kind of thinking were never challenged, Chinese-Canadians would still be slaving in laundries and general stores.... or getting blown up building tunnels for the railroads cuz the white guys wouldn't do it. |
Do you eat chicken packaged in the US? Or wear t-shirts or stockings made in the US? Because that kind of thinking still runs rampant in the US and Mexicans will willingly do the work white guys (and black guys) won't do. |
Oftentimes because they don't have a greencard or citizenship like most whites and blacks in the U.S. So they get the short end of the stick. That's why there's a movement of sorts to give increased benefits and rights to illegal aliens so they can't be taken advantage of (as much)... |
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Corporal
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 5:16 am Post subject: |
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| Do you eat chicken packaged in the US? Or wear t-shirts or stockings made in the US? Because that kind of thinking still runs rampant in the US and Mexicans will willingly do the work white guys (and black guys) won't do. |
Sorry, you're going to have to be more clear with whatever your point is. I'm not American, and how is it my fault if Mexicans want to do work that white and black guys won't do?  |
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Eazy_E
Joined: 30 Oct 2003
Location: British Columbia, Canada
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| OiGirl wrote: |
| Eazy_E wrote: |
| Corporal wrote: |
Playing the apologist for a minute and reminding y'all that anyone has a right to demand a certain kind of person to fill a certain kind of job.
Of course, I just say that because I'm young, white, female, and hot. But it's still true. |
If this kind of thinking were never challenged, Chinese-Canadians would still be slaving in laundries and general stores.... or getting blown up building tunnels for the railroads cuz the white guys wouldn't do it. |
Do you eat chicken packaged in the US? Or wear t-shirts or stockings made in the US? Because that kind of thinking still runs rampant in the US and Mexicans will willingly do the work white guys (and black guys) won't do. |
I was referring to the fact that when Chinese immigrants were first accepted in Canada, they were barred from virtually every profession. This is how the Chinese laundries became so prevalent; it was virtually the only line of work available to them.
I guess it wasn't the best analogy; my point is that discrimination on the basis of race, religion, etc. is NOT acceptable and can't just be sloughed off as a person's right to choose who to hire. Human rights can't just be dismissed that easily. |
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