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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| trevorcollins wrote: |
| I absolutely agree. A study setting is fine, but a social setting is just plain dumb. One, it's exclusive, leaving out some of those who you may be with whose grasp isn't the same |
When I do, it's usually with people who I met in Korean classes in the first place, so it feels pretty natural to do so. Especially after a few drinks.
Also, when I'm out with Koreans or other people who speak Korean but not English, speaking to the Westerners that are also at the table in Korean is a means of including everyone who's there. That's assuming those Westerners actually speak Korean, of course. |
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just because

Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Location: Changwon - 4964
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| I did last night |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 5:40 am Post subject: |
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| If the foreigner cannot speak English but some Korean, then we can use some Korean. Have met just a few people like that: Russian, Japanese, Peruvian. |
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hojucandy

Joined: 03 Feb 2003 Location: In a better place
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:42 am Post subject: post count 677 |
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i have a lot of friends who work in factories in the ansan area. among them are pakistanis, bangladeshis, and people of various former soviet countries, like kazhakhstan (sp?)....
anyway - i speak pretty good urdu and hindi so i have no trouble communicating with the pakistanis and banglas, but when i speak with the kazhaks i have to resort to korean - which they know better than me!
i once had a conversation with two old uzhbek women in french!
one of my best friends, who goes by the nicname of deniro, is pakistani/afghani. he speaks a little english, a lot of korean, and of course he speaks urdu and pashto. we converse in a micture of urdu, korean and english - often all in the one sentence. its a lot of fun!
so - i voted yes.
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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003 Location: Kuwait
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:51 am Post subject: |
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| Did yesterday with a Indian / Pakistani street trader. |
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noelinkorea
Joined: 09 Apr 2003 Location: Shinchon, Seoul
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:46 pm Post subject: Yes indeedy |
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| I answered "yes" cos I have to speak Korean to foreigners every day in my Korean class...not that I really speak much, nor say anything really constuctive anyway...If the foreigner is learning Korean, then I would speak Korean, yes. If it is someone from another English-speaking country and we are alone, then I would revert to English (however, if we are with others - either Korean, or other Korean-speaking/studying foreigners, then I would speak in Korean). Supplementary question: This really bugs me, and I wonder if other (native English speakers) Korean speaking people do this - when you hit an English word used in Korean, do you pronounce it as a Korean word, or revert to how you'd say it in English? I go with the former myself, and it irks me a bit when others will just say the word as English (for example: service, television, radio, aircon, certain countries' names, etc...[run out of ideas for words then...]). |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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The Korean prononciation. It flows better, and Koreans are more likely to understand it.
When Korean names and words come up during English conversation I tend to anglicize them, which is pretty confusing to most English-speaking Koreans I've noticed. Ain't globalization grand? |
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Mashimaro

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: location, location
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:32 am Post subject: Re: Yes indeedy |
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| not that I really speak much, nor say anything really constuctive anyway... |
If you don't speak much korean class then why not? Is it a lack of confidence or is it a deficiency in the teaching method.
Surely if you want to speak korean well you have to speak a lot of it. I'm not criticising you, my interest lies more in having been in the style of class you are in.
Having been in an environment which stresses speaking above all else, I can't imagine learning any other way. |
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deepblue
Joined: 07 Apr 2004 Location: Standing on the outside, kickin' stones
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:08 am Post subject: |
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| I spoke in Korean back "home" to other non natives who had been to korea as a code. sneaky yes but my point was made. |
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skindleshanks
Joined: 10 May 2004
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:58 am Post subject: |
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Negative. Studies show the language learners learn best when practicing with people of a similar language ability level and, contrary to popular opinion, these learners don't commnly pick up the other learners' mistakes. |
Excellent point--I find my best practice is with foreigners. I'm the only guy at the free class at the YWCA, and I find it is a lot easier to speak with Philippino and Japanese ajummas (even though they all still put me to shame). Perhaps it has something to do with the "affective filter," or that they don't delve too deep into the vast realms of unknown vocabulary as a native speaker would. |
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seoulmon

Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Answer: YES
Koreans will want to practice English with me and I'll point to the nearest foreigner. "See that guy from Canada" I'll say in K. "We talk to each other in Korean. So that's what I speak."
SOmetimes they get real pucker faced. But the cool ones understand. |
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Wisco Kid

Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Location: Changwon
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 3:47 am Post subject: |
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If I spoke korean, sure.
Back in thailand I'd often speak thai with other farang, it was more fun and seemed more expresive at times. b But for some reason the korean tongue just doesn't resonate with my ears well, and I'm not feeling inclined to learn it. |
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sadsac
Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Location: Gwangwang
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 7:31 am Post subject: |
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I didn't vote because I don't read or speak Korean at any level beyond common courtesies. Language is communication. Can I order food? Yes! Can I get from A to B? Yes! Have I ever failed to communicate a need to a Korean in nearly 4 years? No! Even if I did speak Korean with a reasonable level of fluency, I certainly wouldn't converse with other native speakers in Korean.  |
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kiwiboy_nz_99

Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Location: ...Enlightenment...
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:09 am Post subject: |
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| People's use of language is mainly utilitarian. If the other westerner speaks English, then I don't see the point. |
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itaewonguy

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:21 am Post subject: |
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| Butterfly wrote: |
| Did yesterday with a Indian / Pakistani street trader. |
me too.,. |
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