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Would you speak Korean with another foreigner?
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trevorcollins wrote:
I absolutely agree. A study setting is fine, but a social setting is just plain dumb. One, it's exclusive, leaving out some of those who you may be with whose grasp isn't the same


When I do, it's usually with people who I met in Korean classes in the first place, so it feels pretty natural to do so. Especially after a few drinks.

Also, when I'm out with Koreans or other people who speak Korean but not English, speaking to the Westerners that are also at the table in Korean is a means of including everyone who's there. That's assuming those Westerners actually speak Korean, of course.
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did last night
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the foreigner cannot speak English but some Korean, then we can use some Korean. Have met just a few people like that: Russian, Japanese, Peruvian.
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hojucandy



Joined: 03 Feb 2003
Location: In a better place

PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:42 am    Post subject: post count 677 Reply with quote

i have a lot of friends who work in factories in the ansan area. among them are pakistanis, bangladeshis, and people of various former soviet countries, like kazhakhstan (sp?)....

anyway - i speak pretty good urdu and hindi so i have no trouble communicating with the pakistanis and banglas, but when i speak with the kazhaks i have to resort to korean - which they know better than me!

i once had a conversation with two old uzhbek women in french!

one of my best friends, who goes by the nicname of deniro, is pakistani/afghani. he speaks a little english, a lot of korean, and of course he speaks urdu and pashto. we converse in a micture of urdu, korean and english - often all in the one sentence. its a lot of fun!

so - i voted yes.

Cool
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did yesterday with a Indian / Pakistani street trader.
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noelinkorea



Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: Shinchon, Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:46 pm    Post subject: Yes indeedy Reply with quote

I answered "yes" cos I have to speak Korean to foreigners every day in my Korean class...not that I really speak much, nor say anything really constuctive anyway...If the foreigner is learning Korean, then I would speak Korean, yes. If it is someone from another English-speaking country and we are alone, then I would revert to English (however, if we are with others - either Korean, or other Korean-speaking/studying foreigners, then I would speak in Korean). Supplementary question: This really bugs me, and I wonder if other (native English speakers) Korean speaking people do this - when you hit an English word used in Korean, do you pronounce it as a Korean word, or revert to how you'd say it in English? I go with the former myself, and it irks me a bit when others will just say the word as English (for example: service, television, radio, aircon, certain countries' names, etc...[run out of ideas for words then...]).
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Korean prononciation. It flows better, and Koreans are more likely to understand it.

When Korean names and words come up during English conversation I tend to anglicize them, which is pretty confusing to most English-speaking Koreans I've noticed. Ain't globalization grand?
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Mashimaro



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location

PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:32 am    Post subject: Re: Yes indeedy Reply with quote

noelinkorea wrote:
not that I really speak much, nor say anything really constuctive anyway...

If you don't speak much korean class then why not? Is it a lack of confidence or is it a deficiency in the teaching method.

Surely if you want to speak korean well you have to speak a lot of it. I'm not criticising you, my interest lies more in having been in the style of class you are in.

Having been in an environment which stresses speaking above all else, I can't imagine learning any other way.
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deepblue



Joined: 07 Apr 2004
Location: Standing on the outside, kickin' stones

PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I spoke in Korean back "home" to other non natives who had been to korea as a code. sneaky yes but my point was made.
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skindleshanks



Joined: 10 May 2004

PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_beaver wrote:


Negative. Studies show the language learners learn best when practicing with people of a similar language ability level and, contrary to popular opinion, these learners don't commnly pick up the other learners' mistakes.


Excellent point--I find my best practice is with foreigners. I'm the only guy at the free class at the YWCA, and I find it is a lot easier to speak with Philippino and Japanese ajummas (even though they all still put me to shame). Perhaps it has something to do with the "affective filter," or that they don't delve too deep into the vast realms of unknown vocabulary as a native speaker would.
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seoulmon



Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Answer: YES

Koreans will want to practice English with me and I'll point to the nearest foreigner. "See that guy from Canada" I'll say in K. "We talk to each other in Korean. So that's what I speak."

SOmetimes they get real pucker faced. But the cool ones understand.
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Wisco Kid



Joined: 07 Sep 2004
Location: Changwon

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I spoke korean, sure.

Back in thailand I'd often speak thai with other farang, it was more fun and seemed more expresive at times. b But for some reason the korean tongue just doesn't resonate with my ears well, and I'm not feeling inclined to learn it.
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sadsac



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't vote because I don't read or speak Korean at any level beyond common courtesies. Language is communication. Can I order food? Yes! Can I get from A to B? Yes! Have I ever failed to communicate a need to a Korean in nearly 4 years? No! Even if I did speak Korean with a reasonable level of fluency, I certainly wouldn't converse with other native speakers in Korean. Smile
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kiwiboy_nz_99



Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

People's use of language is mainly utilitarian. If the other westerner speaks English, then I don't see the point.
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Butterfly wrote:
Did yesterday with a Indian / Pakistani street trader.


me too.,.
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