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Does Itaewon need an expansion or what?
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Joined: 18 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:51 am    Post subject: Does Itaewon need an expansion or what? Reply with quote

By expansion I mean more that each bar needs upgrades and renovations and in particular more room, chairs, breathing space. Especially what concerns me, maximum ONE pool table per bar? Some don't even have any. And look at those tables, getting bumped by people as you take a shot? Long list of people waiting to play on just about any given night... I personally think Itaewon could use a few more nice new establishments and 2 pool tables per bar.

Does anyone have any good recommendations of where to go play pool nearby, that is definately foreigner friendly and at cheap rates (i.e. not those really expensive "drinky" bars)? I would also hate to play at the specialty Korean run places "billiards halls" as I've been in those a couple of times and man the Korean men are downright prejudiced and snobby. I guess if you explicitly went in with a foreigner group then you'd be alright but go in only yourself or one other guy and you're totally out of place unless you get lucky. But those places aren't social scenes anyways. Anyways Itaewon, about the only place in town for any casual fun pool playing and general hanging out just isn't cutting it. What ever happened to Supply vs. Demand balance? Is that a possible good business opportunity waiting? If you ask me Itaewon is a good business opportunity with just about anything - lots of people, packed tight, thousands of foreigners with no place to go, all day and all night, so many people looking for more fun, even Koreans drifting in and out. Again why so much lacking in a place with waiting customers?
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nashville has always been my favourite, two tables and the staff there are always friendly and quick with a refill. Still it aint everybody's cup of tea. You can also get a game at Old Town Seoul and Polly's Kettle House on the hill.

Cheers

Jaga
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:59 am    Post subject: yes Reply with quote

Itaewon needs more than an upgrade. More like a total overhaul.
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Gollum



Joined: 04 Sep 2003
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But no one (other than the hooker from ABC club and the German dude from Three Alley who started "Lucky Strike" -- at least I think that guy was in on it) is stupid enough to put a ton of money into bars there. At least not until everyone figures out what will happen to the area in the future when the military moves out.

On the other hand, businesses which cater to Africans and Muslims seem to be doing well. Welcome to the future of Itaewon.
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with Gollum, it's the uncertainty that prevents people from making investments there, and those that do invest big there aren't looking for the trade from soldiers from the Yongsan base. I don't agree that it will become a little Pakistan / Nigeria when the army moves out thoughlot of people in the city avoid it because of the troops, a lot of people. I think the place will remain quite cosmopolitan but improve tenfold when the army base is moved.
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bellum99



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 4:48 pm    Post subject: it is a dive Reply with quote

The place is pathetic. It is filled with the lowest and the dirtiest that the west can ship over here. I mean even the english teachers are scum. The area has the highest level of crime in korea. People are at their worst. I think it will be a better place when they tear all the crap down and just fill the place with apartments. Every year those apartments move closer and closer, and I am happy.
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: it is a dive Reply with quote

bellum99 wrote:
The place is pathetic. It is filled with the lowest and the dirtiest that the west can ship over here. I mean even the english teachers are scum. The area has the highest level of crime in korea. People are at their worst. I think it will be a better place when they tear all the crap down and just fill the place with apartments. Every year those apartments move closer and closer, and I am happy.


Mate! Chill out, there is something for everyone in Itaewon, you don't have to get loaded in Seoul pub, start a fight and take a ho. There are some nice places too. It's changed vastly in the last few years as well, nice new restaurants opening, bars etc. nice, chilled places and just pricey enough to keep out the jarheads. For me, there aren't many places in the whole of Korea with a nicer atmosphere and nicer music than Bar Nana. No crime in there mate, honest. I don't go there more than once or twice a month, but I always have a good time, and I never see any trouble. Never.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 6:31 pm    Post subject: Re: it is a dive Reply with quote

bellum99 wrote:
The place is pathetic. It is filled with the lowest and the dirtiest that the west can ship over here. I mean even the english teachers are scum. The area has the highest level of crime in korea. People are at their worst. I think it will be a better place when they tear all the crap down and just fill the place with apartments. Every year those apartments move closer and closer, and I am happy.


There are also some really cheap apartments for rent in the area.
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chiaa



Joined: 23 Aug 2003

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People do not pour money into bars and restaurants there because they don't need to. They are making plenty of money with out doing that.
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paperbag princess



Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Location: veggie hell

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i go to itawon to eat, that's about it. the place scares the poop outta me.
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There really isn't anything left in Iteawon that you can't get elsewhere in Korea. Used to be shopping that the shopping in Iteawon was good (lots of made in Korea factory rejects). Koreans are now more aware of foreign brands, so that stuff is being sold online instead. Also, you don't need to go to Iteawon anymore to get a good burger or a box of corn flakes.
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Gwangjuboy



Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:58 am    Post subject: Re: it is a dive Reply with quote

bellum99 wrote:
I mean even the english teachers are scum.


Do you often make sweeping insubstantiated statements? Maybe you are trolling because this website is primarily read by English teachers, and you know that such inflammatory posts are going to get some attention. I assume that you have no other way of grabbing our attention. Does this mean you are an intellectual lightweight? Just asking.....

Ah! A quick sweep through your previous posts and I encountered this gem,

Plus - Why repect the western teachers...they are lazy, uneducated, unemployable, and lastly stupid. Even the worst school gets teachers because these people are so needy that they will take anything given to them from the boss and smile. Some people will smile and eat sh*&^*.


http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?p=366694&highlight=#366694

Yep, a troll with form. Now, maybe you can inform us of what you do for a living. Others who harbour hatred for ESL teachers have engineered some great works of fiction in times gone by. Go on, give us a laugh..
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Gwangjuboy



Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:05 am    Post subject: Re: it is a dive Reply with quote

Butterfly wrote:
bellum99 wrote:
The place is pathetic. It is filled with the lowest and the dirtiest that the west can ship over here. I mean even the english teachers are scum. The area has the highest level of crime in korea. People are at their worst. I think it will be a better place when they tear all the crap down and just fill the place with apartments. Every year those apartments move closer and closer, and I am happy.


Mate! Chill out, there is something for everyone in Itaewon, you don't have to get loaded in Seoul pub, start a fight and take a ho. There are some nice places too. It's changed vastly in the last few years as well, nice new restaurants opening, bars etc. nice, chilled places and just pricey enough to keep out the jarheads. For me, there aren't many places in the whole of Korea with a nicer atmosphere and nicer music than Bar Nana. No crime in there mate, honest. I don't go there more than once or twice a month, but I always have a good time, and I never see any trouble. Never.


Ah Butterfly, as you can see this man is in a permanent state of angst and bitterness. Granted, you didn't know this man's track record, but I implore you on future occasions to bypass such stupid comments. Just a heads up mate. Wink
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gollum wrote:
But no one (other than the hooker from ABC club and the German dude from Three Alley who started "Lucky Strike" -- at least I think that guy was in on it) .


NO gunter from the 3 Ally is not involved in that bar...

His brother in law MR Jung from SEOUL PUB and his brother JIN are involved.. and so is tony from the russian bar..
JIN/MR JUNG
TONY
ABC~ HO


they put in 100million each...
thats why you see the girl from ABC out in the street selling her arse..
cause she is losing money in a big way!
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:11 pm    Post subject: Re: it is a dive Reply with quote

Gwangjuboy wrote:
Ah Butterfly, as you can see this man is in a permanent state of angst and bitterness. Granted, you didn't know this man's track record, but I implore you on future occasions to bypass such stupid comments. Just a heads up mate. Wink


Yes, but maybe I can help aleviate his bitterness by showing him the sunshine side. I want bellum to be happy, really I do Wink
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