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Gideon · Joined: 24 Feb 2004 Location: Seoul

I am very @$^# off at a gym a tried to join today. I was told they do not allow foreigners to join. I was very angry with them. Yes there are other gyms that i could join but this one has everything i need.

My question is this. Is there something i can do about this? If so who do i need to see regarding this matter?

Thanks... all help would be great..

funplanet · Joined: 20 Jun 2003 Location: The new Bucheon!

sorry, but a private business has the right to serve whom ever they want....if they don't want foreigners, well, f* 'em and take your money elsewhere...

welcome to korea

chiaa · Joined: 23 Aug 2003

Do you really think that technically (not reality) that they have the right to refuse service because of race? That is actually what they are doing.

Ya-ta Boy · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994

I think I'd look up the Ministry of Justice's website and see if there is an address or phone number.

If there is, you might just happen to drop the phrase "hub of NE Asia" in your question about being barred from a health club because of your citizenship.

rawiri · Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Location: Lovely day for a fire drill.

[quote="Ya-ta Boy"]I think I'd look up the Ministry of Justice's website and see if there is an address or phone number.

If there is, you might just happen to drop the phrase "hub of NE Asia" in your question about being barred from a health club because of your citizenship.[/quote]

i have to laugh whenever whiteys over here get all miffed about racism....truth time....it's a fricken fact of life.....get over it/relish it/accept it...just like all minority groups all over the world have to!....you never knoe...you might learn something about yourself!

jazblanc77 · Joined: 22 Feb 2004

This is a silly post and all of the answers are self evident. Why would you want to join a gym if they have been openly racist towards you? Are you a sucker for abuse? Also, why do you want to know what you can "do about it"? Do you think it is your right and place to teach them a lesson on their "backward" ways?

Get over it and find another gym. Confused

Gideon · Joined: 24 Feb 2004 Location: Seoul

Sure np, thats easy to do. Um just stating a fact... yeah thats right its a fact that we are discriminated in Korea and um sure in most other countries too...

Having that said, i was once a newby on this forum. And if it wasnt for other peoples comments, good, bad, stupid... or whatever, then i might not have learned as much as i have since being here...OK!!

Nonetheless... thanks for your replies!! Smile

ladyandthetramp · Joined: 21 Nov 2003

jazblanc77 · Joined: 22 Feb 2004

Gideon · Joined: 24 Feb 2004 Location: Seoul

It seems i began the original post with the intent to get some, gee ahh what do they call it when someone needs assistance... hmmm oh yeah i found the word - H E L P -. Thou it seems i've pretty much received negativity..

jazblanc77

you always negative... or do you offer assistance when people are looking for some help or guidance..

royjones · Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Location: post count: 512

jazblanc77 · Joined: 22 Feb 2004

Real Reality · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul

Please contact your embassy or send an e-mail message to your government representative in Korea.
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U.S. Embassy
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Perhaps, you could write to some government organization interested in business with foreigners. You might indicate your intentions of telling all your family members and friends about avoiding Korea and Korean products.

Korea Chamber of Commerce and Industry
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American Chamber of Commerce in Korea
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European Union Chamber of Commerce in Korea
Homepage: www.eucck.org
CEO: Grauhar Jean-Jacques
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mithridates · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:11 pm Post subject:

I don't see why you can't adopt a two-pronged approach...find another gym and don't worry about it at the same time as you phone the MOJ and see if you can give them hell. that way you have the best of both worlds. Those that say you can't change Korea haven't looked into its history...don't forget it was a near dictatorship just twenty years ago.

bibimbap · Joined: 14 Dec 2003

private businesses DO NOT have the right to discriminate based on race.

you absolutely within your limits to bring this to the authority's attention.

a few friends and i went to a nightclub recently and were told, Koreans ONLY.

that is wrongheaded. i can understand a dress code - but not a race code.

korea has been insulated from outsiders from so long, they need a few lessons about equality and multiculturalism. they are willing to accept the affluence that global business brings them, but they are not ready to accept global values of tolerance and diversity.