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NYT Gives Seoul Glowing Write-Up as The New Tokyo
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djbackdoor



Joined: 29 Dec 2004
PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 12:04 pm    Post subject: Delusional Tripe Reply with quote
What a load of bollocks. Seoul better than Tokyo ... oh my God, what a pile of delusional tripe. Seoul is a stinky backwater full of backward peasants.
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Cthulhu



Joined: 02 Feb 2003
PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Seoul is a stinky backwater full of backward peasants.


Enjoying life much? Laughing
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Seoul does have similarities to Tokyo MUCH more than any other city in the world. Nothing of Seoul seems like Beijing or Shanghai or any European, North American, South American, African, or Middle Eastern city.

But when you look at pictures of massive ROTARIES where all the roads converge in a massive mess.. it looks like just what Tokyo does.. set up with massive department stores.. and all that junk. Complete with the same standard western fastfood chains.

Scratch briefly below the surface though.. and very very different places.
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
tiger Beer wrote:
But when you look at pictures of massive ROTARIES where all the roads converge in a massive mess.. it looks like just what Tokyo does.. set up with massive department stores.. and all that junk. Complete with the same standard western fastfood chains.

The road layout is because the Japanese were the ones to initially lay out the roads in Seoul . It is very Japanese style to have all roads leading into a big roundabout or use these roundabout in a system of roundabout(like spokes on a wheel).

Jinhae in southern Korean is a great example of japanese road patterns. Ironically enough, the city where they celebrate the cherry blossom festival, which was an imported tree from Japan. Now they have a day to celebrate the Japanese tree.

No wonder they are confused about Seoul becoming Tokyo Smile
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004
PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I always thought Seoul as Tokyo Lite. You can blow all kinds of holes in any comparison but really. They're huge cities, big subway systems, lots of people, Asian, but with Western comforts. Seoul is cheaper. Twice when I came to Seoul as a tourist I loved it, just loved it. And that's why I came back as a teacher.

The writer should have warned readers that if they stay at the Shilla in summer not to expect air conditioning... And the writer seems to have spent too much time in Itaewon. You're visiting Seoul. Why go to Ameri-ho town? You might want to visit Itaewon for a good laugh at the worst of American culture if you're spending more than a week in Seoul. But a week stay in Seoul there are far more interesting places to go.

Oish.
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Godzilla



Joined: 06 Jun 2003
PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've just had two weeks in London and Birmingham and have to fly back to Seoul (less) on Saturday. Seoul doesn't compare to Birmingham anymore, let alone a truly international city like London or Tokyo. Man, I'm depressed. Still... only 8 more months, eh Smile
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paperbag princess



Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Location: veggie hell
PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
itaewon is nothing like west hollywood.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
You can express your opinion in the forums of the New York Times. Of course, you have to register prior to posting your opinion.

Travel Forum
http://forums.nytimes.com/top/opinion/readersopinions/forums/travel/travelinthenews/index.html
Forums
http://forums.nytimes.com/top/opinion/readersopinions/forums/index.html
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indiercj



Joined: 30 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It not the city. It's people like you that makes it depressing.
Leave for your own sake.
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
mindmetoo wrote:

The writer should have warned readers that if they stay at the Shilla in summer not to expect air conditioning...


The Shilla doesn't have air-conditioning!?!?

Sparkles*_*
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
indiercj wrote:
It not the city. It's people like you that makes it depressing.
Leave for your own sake.

I love the setup of the city of Seoul. Love everything about it. I really only sometimes wish it were inhabited by different or a more variety of people. Love the convenience of it, and the many backstreet alleys everywhere. Also like all the things available - 24 hour bars, convenience stores, noraebangs, videobangs, pcbangs, restaurants, etc.

Great way to structure a city - definetely no complaints on that aspect here!
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