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CustomX



Joined: 25 Aug 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:36 am    Post subject: I need help gaining weight please.... Reply with quote

I've been here 2 months, and dont feel healthy at all. I am sure that I have lost at least 10 lbs from the change of diet. I was 165lbs before I came...6ft tall. Is there a decent website on what food I can eat here to bulk up? I want to join a gym as well, as I have worked out most of my life. I feel like my whole body is shriveling. I have a really high metabolism. Back home I was eating at least 3 eggs, toast, oatmeal, cereal, 2 sandwiches a day full of meat, 2 protein shakes, steak, baked potato, veggies, 1/2 gallon of milk every day....plus a lot more food, just to maintain my body weight. Anyone have any suggestions on what I can do to fix this? I went to the GNC in Bundang, which SUCKS! They hardly have any supplements. I'm going to buy a huge tub of protein mix from my army friend this weekend to help hopefully
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I can tell you about the bad habits that make me GAIN weight:

1. Don't eat breakfast. If you miss breakfast, your body's metabolism will not start to burn food until lunch.

2. Each chocolate and drink coffee. The caffeine and other ingredients will slow your metabolism. Just be sure to brush your teeth after, because all of the bottled water here ain't got no flouride.

3. Eat after 8pm, when your metabolism has slowed. This will make you store more weight overnight.

4. Don't exercise... especially in the morning. Don't walk too much, either. Be a lazy-butt and pay for cabs.

5. Make a habit of eating a chocolate or sugar snack with your lunch.

6. Sit on your butt and type on Dave's all night. Guarenteed to pack on the pounds.
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kangnam mafioso



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: Teheranno

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why is it so important to gain bulk? why do you have to take supplements to maintain a healthy body size? they have eggs and meat here, bro. and they also have gyms.
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pollyplummer



Joined: 07 Mar 2005
Location: McMinnvillve, Oregon

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:02 pm    Post subject: putting on weight Reply with quote

I do all of those things that Derrek mentioned (except skipping breakfast, cause I'd die) and still cant seem to gain weight. I find that I am able to put on a few pounds if I can go stay with mom for a month and spend most of that time eating protein, dairy and snacks and watch too much tv. Then and only then do I have success in putting on some kind of padding. Living in Korea tends to be a far too active life for those who want to try to put on weight. I havent had any success. My suggestion: go live with mom. Hehe Very Happy
(which basically translates as: After all you've done, there's really no way, so just try to stay healthy)
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squat toilet



Joined: 08 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jesus there is some bad advice in this thread...

If you're 6 feet 150lbs forget about eating chocolate, skipping breakfast and sitting on your ass. All you'll end up with is an E.T body (waif thin with a 3rd trimester gut).

Forget the protein suppliments. IMO all they do is bloat you and stifle your appetite. I suggest you hit Costco, Hannam Supermarket, etc and stock up on chicken, fish, turkey, etc. to increase your protein consumption...also try to eat a large meal before bed after a hard workout too.

I recommend HEAVY lifting. A couple sets of 6-8 reps finishing with one set of 2-5 to failure...when you're working chest make sure to incorporate bench (plates and dumbbells) instead of sticking with machines. Same goes for legs. Heavy Squats and flat bench are proven to be the two primary exercises to increase testosterone production thus increasing overall muscle mass.

If you wanna gain weight do it properly.
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paperbag princess



Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Location: veggie hell

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eat cookies.
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know why, but dairy products here seem to really make me huge.
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Rock



Joined: 25 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Squat Toilet is right. Lift weights. Since the biggest muscles in your body are in your legs, do squats or leglifting. You'll be amazed, but you can gain at least 5 kilos in a month.

Weights turn fat into muscle. Muscle is heavier.

About eating more, it depends on your age. All those gimmicks out there don't help. And don't think they'll help you, as many gimmick foods might contain high cholesterol.
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac donalds! the food of champions!
PIZZA PIZZA PIZZA!
ICE CREAM!!
DONUTS!!

STEAK!!
eat more more more!!
stay away from the korean food. unless its samgyupsal! or beef..
dude.. you can gain weight! if you really want too..
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Daechidong Waygookin



Joined: 22 Nov 2004
Location: No Longer on Dave's. Ive quit.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rock wrote:
Squat Toilet is right. Lift weights. Since the biggest muscles in your body are in your legs, do squats or leglifting. You'll be amazed, but you can gain at least 5 kilos in a month.

Weights turn fat into muscle. Muscle is heavier.

About eating more, it depends on your age. All those gimmicks out there don't help. And don't think they'll help you, as many gimmick foods might contain high cholesterol.


Um, how can you turn fat into muscle?!

Weight dont turn fat into muscle. Thats totally imposible. Weight training builds muscle, which in turn elevates your metabolism and leads to fat loss. When combined with cardio, it leads to fat loss. Make sure you dont do too much cardio, as it leads to muscle loss. The best way to do cardio is to do short sessions (between 20-30 minutes) of high intensity cardio. Do not run for an hour or bike for an hour as that will lead to your body metabolizing muscle along with fat. The way I do it is to run hard for 5 minutes (on the running machine I go from 10km/h and every minute I increase by 1 km/h) then I immediately get off and get on a bike and cycle at an easy pace for 5 minutes. Then I get back on the running machine and do 5 minutes, starting at 11 km/h this time going up to 15 km/h. After 5 minutes its back on the bike. Finally, I do the running machine for 5 minutes, starting at 12km/h and going up by 1 km/h per minute to 16 km/h, and finally on the bike for 5 minutes. This kind of cardio is high intensity, it gets your heart rate and core body temperature up for a long time afterwards, and unlike low intensity jogging, it doesnt lead to muscle catabolism. ever see how marathon runners and joggers look? Pretty sickly to me. Compare them with sprinters who do a lot of high intensity training instead of the ultra boring low intensity crap. If I had to endure 30 minutes of running in place Id kill myself.

Diet is crucial. Eat high calorie complex carbohydrates, avoid simple sugars. Eat plenty of fruit. I love bananas. Rich in potassium, high in calories. Get a lot of protein from food and supplements. Avoid the idiotic Atkins crap. You will never bulk up properly without eating a lot of carbs. GOOD carbs is the key.
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Daechidong Waygookin



Joined: 22 Nov 2004
Location: No Longer on Dave's. Ive quit.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

itaewonguy wrote:
mac donalds! the food of champions!
PIZZA PIZZA PIZZA!
ICE CREAM!!
DONUTS!!

STEAK!!
eat more more more!!
stay away from the korean food. unless its samgyupsal! or beef..
dude.. you can gain weight! if you really want too..


I think he wants to gain good weight, not just fat.
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Freezer Burn



Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey customX
Im in the same boat as you, when i left australia i was 75kgs 6ft, and i am losing the gains i made in the gym, but just look around your area for a gym, they have pretty good gyms here, and you can buy supplements here or on the net.
They have powders for about 130,000 for 4kg.
As far as food goes, they stock foiled sachets of tuna in the supermarket which has about 30grms of protein in it, as well as the different soya bean drinks they have here about 6grms a shot, you can get good cheese as well as milk to help with the protein loading.
Im in a good gym, where your not stared at, you have to make sure that the weights they have a re enough for you to lift as well.
good luck
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quadra87



Joined: 28 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edit

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chotaerang



Joined: 23 Mar 2004
Location: In the gym

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What squat toilet advised you is correct I think. That rep range is fine for bulking but you probably want to go higher some days, like 3x10-12, and lower on others, like 6x4. Try the protein powders (the basement of ���빮 offers the best prices I've seen here), if they kill your appetite, discontinue, if not knock, them back before and after your workout. Lastly, think about hitting some good numbers in the gym. For example, a 225 bench would be a good start, as well as 3 plates on squat and deadlift.
Last, you asked for websites so I'll toss out a couple with the disclaimer that they are fairly puerile.
www.ruggedmag.com
www.testosterone.net
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squat toilet



Joined: 08 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Lastly, think about hitting some good numbers in the gym. For example, a 225 bench would be a good start, as well as 3 plates on squat and deadlift.


Whats with throwing out these arbitrary numbers without knowing anything about the guy or his fitness level? The guy is 6 feet, 150-160 lbs and said himself that he's not healthy. I highly doubt that the guy could begin with a 225lbs bench...saying such a thing is a great way to shatter his motivation when he walks into the gym and realizes he can't even bench half of this. I won't even get into the risk of serious injury from following this absurd advice.

When getting back into a routine, lift fairly light and concentrate on form. Work within your own limitations and set benchmarks. After a week or two start increasing this weight using max. reps as your guide. If you can do a set of 12-15 reps fairly easily, its a sign you're lifting too light...forget about the amount of weight other people are lifting.

The only other advice i can give is to forge through that inital wall you'll hit after a week or two of lifting. Even though you're tired and your body aches, force yourself to hit the gym. Doing something is always better than doing nothing.

The truth of the matter is that I always end up having a much better work out when I first don't want to go to the gym but force myself to do so. Often times when i'm too fired up, i'm unfocused, lift to much weight and sometimes compromise form. When i'm mentally tired after a long day of work, I find that i become more focused once i can push aside the cobwebs.

Anyways, good luck
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