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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:05 am    Post subject: "he receive a life sentence" Reply with quote

How would you explain to someone how this is wrong?

"he receive a life sentence"

I know its wrong.. and explained it would have to be '-ed' or a 'will receive'.. but having a tough time explaining the rule on when this can be used in the present tense.. if it can at all.
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Pyongshin Sangja



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ummm, it has to be "receives" when referring to "he." It would be ok, if it were preceded by a subordinate clause like: "An offender convicted of murder receives a life sentence." Either that or its someone who receives a life sentence every day of their life. That's a hard life.
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desultude



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just so.


Present simple (receives) is used for habitual things or reported speech. I doubt the this is habitual, but your example is perfect for reported speech.
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man of the year



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:26 am    Post subject: Re: "he receive a life sentence" Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
How would you explain to someone how this is wrong?


How would you explain to someone that this sentence is grammatically incorrect? Rolling Eyes

In your case, get an English teacher to do it.
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zappadelta



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This can't be a serious post
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Pyongshin Sangja



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it can
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Kimchieluver



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gee, I sometimes want to take a log of every person who criticizes a post for not being grammatically correct. And then when they make a typo or a mistake on a forum, well.....

I don't know.

I beleieve it's like this:

He
SHe - gets likes takes receives

They You I - receive
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Real Reality



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing
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guangho



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He received a life sentence- meaning that in a past tense, as the judgement has already been passed.

He will receive a life sentence- Will, in the future receive a life sentence.

He receive is incorrect because the only possibilties are that he will (future) or has (past) been sentenced. It can, perhaps be present continous (He is receiving a life sentence, although that is uncommon) but the usage "he receive" does not fall into any acceptable paradigm.


Or you could just do what I do- say it is a matter of style and that's that. Cool
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Kimchieluver



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Embarassed

Last edited by Kimchieluver on Mon May 02, 2005 7:46 am; edited 7 times in total
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do some of you need a life sentence for trying to teach English?

(or is it?)

Is teaching English like receiving a life sentence?
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FUBAR



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 5:56 am    Post subject: Re: "he receive a life sentence" Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
How would you explain to someone how this is wrong?

"he receive a life sentence"

I know its wrong.. and explained it would have to be '-ed' or a 'will receive'.. but having a tough time explaining the rule on when this can be used in the present tense.. if it can at all.


Don't you teach at a University and have a CELTA course to your credit? Please tell me that this is a joke. This question pertains to the basic rules of grammar.

Don't you rememember:

I go
You go
He/She goes
They go
We go
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who is he?

And why will he receive a life sentence anyway?
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"He receive a life sentence" is the sentence my student wrote using the word 'receive' (or any of its forms) in a sentence.

Of course its grammatically correct to use 'he receives' for present tense.

But if my student wants to use it as 'he receives a life sentence'.. can you think of any time when it would be used in a sentence in this way? I would think realistically it would have to be either past or future.

I suggested the 'he is receiving a life sentence' as a possible present tense suggestion.. but she really wanted to know more about the 'he receives' and if its at all possible.
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jazblanc77



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"He receives" would imply a habitual or recurring action OR that the action is part of a story being told. If it is not part of a story in the second person or it doesn't happen more than once then the style above is incorrect and you would have to use either a past or future tense.
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