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Wots worse, NAV or an actual virus? |
Don't be stupid viruses are by far the worst |
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Norton is devil spawn and should be exorcised from all PCs |
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blunder1983
Joined: 12 Apr 2005
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:41 am Post subject: Whats worse, Norton Antivirus or a virus? |
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Well I'm having a bitch of a time deleting Norton from my computer, and the last one still left loads of crap behind after I FINALLY got it uninstalled.
So wots worse, a virus or Norton?
Norton, slows my computer immeasurably opening new things and tries to block ANYTHING connecting to the internet (including Firefox and IE) until I fudged the settings.
I know you can get some nasty viruses but I think NAV ranks up there with best of them
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:02 am Post subject: |
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Norton sucks soooo much. We had that on our computer at school. Dumped it, thank goodness!
Avast! is the only way to go, and it's free! www.avast.com
I love that program, and you can set it so you hardly see it running.
Just let it run in the background and scan for viruses every so often. |
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christopher1magelli

Joined: 20 Mar 2005
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:07 am Post subject: . |
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In order to completely remove Norton AntiVirus from your PC, you'll need to download a free tool from Symantec!  |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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It's funny-
Norton and McAfee were pretty much the only games in town 10 years ago (or at least the only ones worth talking about), and Anti-virus debates were always Norton vs. McAfee; I imagine they both still have their longterm corporate customers who are pretty much on the hook to continue with them, but it's funny that neither of these ever seems to make the top 3 these days at least as far as home pc use is concerned. I guess that's what happens when you rest too easy on your laurels. |
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jazblanc77

Joined: 22 Feb 2004
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:27 am Post subject: |
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I would say that having Norton and thinking you are safe (when you're actually still quite vulnerable), is much worse because when it comes up with nothing on a scan, you think you are okay and don't try to fix an undetected infection.
Bulsajo wrote: |
It's funny-
Norton and McAfee were pretty much the only games in town 10 years ago (or at least the only ones worth talking about), and Anti-virus debates were always Norton vs. McAfee; I imagine they both still have their longterm corporate customers who are pretty much on the hook to continue with them, but it's funny that neither of these ever seems to make the top 3 these days at least as far as home pc use is concerned. I guess that's what happens when you rest too easy on your laurels. |
Have you tried out Mcafee 2005? It's nothing to scoff at. I've used full versions of most of the AV and Firewalls out there and, IMO, using McAfee firewal and AV together will make your computer VERY secure. Trend Micro (PcCillin), ALWIL (Sygate), Grisoft (AVG), and Zonelabs (Zone Alarm), all make good AV scanners or firewalls, however, as a bundle, none are 100% in both areas. McAfee is the only bundle suite that I have found so far that has a strong AV scanner and Firewall. I also don't mind paying for it as I feel that strong security software is always worth the money I dole out for it. |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:25 am Post subject: |
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I guess Norton have been around for a few years now. They have to make their product bigger and better with every version. I agree it's now too big and invasive. I still haven't deleted it completely from my comp (I'm with Grisoft AVG now. Works great).
How many applications are like that?
Programmers write a nifty program; It gets improved after 1 year; next they add features; next, it's a monster out of control!!! |
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MixtecaMike

Joined: 24 Nov 2003 Location: 3rd Largest Train Station in Korea
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:26 am Post subject: |
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Norton sucks, but viruses (viruii?) suck even harder.
Netscape Navigator, cerca 1998, now THAT was a beggar to remove. |
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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:03 am Post subject: |
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jazblanc77 wrote: |
Have you tried out Mcafee 2005? It's nothing to scoff at. I've used full versions of most of the AV and Firewalls out there and, IMO, using McAfee firewal and AV together will make your computer VERY secure. Trend Micro (PcCillin), ALWIL (Sygate), Grisoft (AVG), and Zonelabs (Zone Alarm), all make good AV scanners or firewalls, however, as a bundle, none are 100% in both areas. McAfee is the only bundle suite that I have found so far that has a strong AV scanner and Firewall. I also don't mind paying for it as I feel that strong security software is always worth the money I dole out for it. |
We use McAfee at work.
When '98 was the MS O/S du jour I swore by Norton.
These days I use:
AVG free version
Spybot S & D
Zone Alarm 2.6 (older version)
And the firewall & packet sniffer of my router. |
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TJ
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:01 pm Post subject: Differing opinions |
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It's interesting how opinions differ from time to time and from location to location.
A few months back I looked into which anti virus software to install and most people/sites I queried recommended Nortons. So, that's what I installed. Now, popular opinion seems to be against Nortons.
Incidentally I'm having problems with my internet connection dropping out intermittently. Some people say that Nortons, in particular it's firewall, may be responsible. So I've disabled that.
Life sure wasn't meant to be easy, was it ??? |
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SuperHero

Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Location: Superhero Hideout
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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My primary computer has norton and my secondary has avast. Depending on how I like Avast, I may switch over the next time I reinstall windows on the primary. |
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:56 am Post subject: |
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Best firewall is a hardware firewall. At home I got M0n0wall as a firewall, here I got a linksys router. I also use Windows firewall it isn't great but it adds to the protection scheme. I download tons of stuff never get a virus, even when I do get one I can remove it in 5-10 minutes.
I think Norton retail is definetly a god damn virus. Norton corp is vastly supperior. |
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blunder1983
Joined: 12 Apr 2005
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Well I got the tool from Symantec and managed to get rid of Norton. Now I'm running Avast my computer is running approximately 300% faster. (it used to take 3mins to boot now it only takes 1!) huzzah!!!!!! |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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blunder1983 wrote: |
Well I got the tool from Symantec and managed to get rid of Norton. Now I'm running Avast my computer is running approximately 300% faster. (it used to take 3mins to boot now it only takes 1!) huzzah!!!!!! |
Glad you like AVAST!
Please keep in mind that merely having a virus program doesn't mean you won't get viruses (or trojans, more likely). A lot of these "resident checkers" have accidentally fooled people into believing that they don't have to do a virus scan with the program from time to time. I try to do one every week or so overnight, and I have found a few trojans here and there. It might be important to note that the Avast "thorough" scan found the trojans, but the quicker scan didn't.
I seem to have some sort of trojan popping up in this Java plug-in I have. It gets deleted, or I quaranteen it, and then months later I apparently run something and it appears again. Haven't quite figured it out. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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I went with avast too when my norton trial run expired. Based on recommendations here -- thanks guys.
Seems to be running smoothly now but it was annoying as hell at first. Evidently I picked up a bit of malware somewhere & damned if this noisy siren didnt go off several times a session informing me so. I followed their recommended procedure -- nothing changed. I tried to delete it umpteen times -- nothing changed. Adaware & spybot couldnt find it. I searched for it on my own & couldnt find it.
Eventually it seems to have just faded away. |
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