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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:06 am Post subject: |
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Charming dude...did you know he had a degree in architecture?!
Mohammed Atta
Born: 1-Sep-1968
Birthplace: Kafr El Sheikh, Egypt
Died: 11-Sep-2001
Location of death: New York City
Cause of death: Suicide
Remains: Missing, Ground Zero, New York City, NY
Gender: Male
Religion: Muslim
Ethnicity: Middle Eastern
Sexual orientation: Straight
Occupation: Terrorist
Level of fame: Famous
Executive summary: Mastermind behind the 9-11 attacks
University: BA Architecture, University of Cairo
al-Qaeda 9/11 Group Leader
Hijacking 11-Sep-2001 |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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Atta Intelligence Omitted From Report
By KIMBERLY HEFLING, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - The Sept. 11 commission knew military intelligence officials had identified lead hijacker Mohamed Atta as a member of al-Qaida who might be part of U.S.-based terror cell more than a year before the terror attacks but decided not to include that in its final report, a spokesman acknowledged Thursday.
Al Felzenberg, spokesman for the commission's follow-up project called the 9/11 Public Discourse Project, had said earlier this week that the panel was unaware of intelligence specifically naming Atta. But he said subsequent information provided Wednesday confirmed that the commission had been aware of the intelligence.
The information did not make it into the final report because it was not consistent with what the commission knew about Atta's whereabouts before the attacks, Felzenberg said.
The intelligence about Atta recently was disclosed by Rep. Curt Weldon, vice chairman of the House Armed Services and Homeland Security committees. The Pennsylvania Republican has expressed anger that the intelligence never was forwarded by the military establishment to the FBI.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/sept_11_hijackers;_ylt=Agxbflmb91UBVjymK6sNZHQDW7oF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

Joined: 25 May 2003
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:23 am Post subject: |
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According to Weldon, a classified military intelligence unit called "Able Danger" identified Atta and three other hijackers in 1999 as potential members of a terrorist cell in New York City. Weldon said Pentagon lawyers rejected the unit's recommendation that the information be turned over to the FBI in 2000.
According to Pentagon documents, the information was not shared because of concerns about pursuing information on "U.S. persons," a legal term that includes U.S. citizens as well as foreigners legally admitted to the country. |
Why the US needs the Patriot act.
And of course the Patriot needs to be expanded to keep fascists like Jeff Rense followers out the US. |
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death from above

Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Location: in your head
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:14 am Post subject: |
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| Why the US needs the Patriot act |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

Joined: 25 May 2003
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 4:18 am Post subject: |
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Ok , the US government wants to do more harm to its own citizens then Al Qadia does.
Oh wait Al Qaida is fighting for a just cause , and they are very merciful. The reason the US hasn't been attacked is cause Al Qaida didn't want to hurt any more Americans .al Qaida is just misunderstood.
or is it that Al Qaida doesn't exist - it was just Bush who did 9-11  |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 5:45 am Post subject: |
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Read this fascinating account of the life of muhammad Atta.
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/crime/terrorists/mohammed-atta/
"Atta instructed all 19 hijackers to shave off all of their body hair before the attack so they would be clean when they got to heaven."
"Atta's college classmates thought he was a nice guy."
Atta's misogyny deepened as he became further enmeshed in the workings of Islamic extremism. While in school, he'd displayed attitudes ranging from mild discomfort to outright dismay at the women he was forced to interact with.Various accounts described reactions to women running from disdain to disgust to outright hostility."
"Atta himself was sitting across the aisle from David Angell, executive producer of "Frasier." Perhaps they exchanged a few words about that cute little dog before Atta and his team pulled out knives'
"And know that the Gardens of Paradise are beautified with its best ornaments, and its inhabitants are calling you. And if . . . do not let differences come between you, and listen and obey, and if you kill, then kill completely, because this is the way of the Chosen One." |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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Officer: Sept. 11 Panel Told Cells ID'd
By KIMBERLY HEFLING, Associated Press Writer
Wed Aug 17,11:13 PM ET
WASHINGTON - An Army intelligence officer said Wednesday he told staff members from the Sept. 11 commission that a secret military unit had identified two of the three cells involved in the 2001 terrorist strikes more than a year before the attacks.
Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, who said he was associated with the "Able Danger" unit, said that during a 2003 meeting in Afghanistan, he mentioned that the unit had identified Sept. 11 ringleader Mohamed Atta along with three other hijackers as terrorist suspects.
The commission has denied that Atta's name or the name of any future hijackers were mentioned during the meeting.
Three months later, in January 2004, Shaffer said he was back in the United States and offered to follow up with the commission, but his offer was declined.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/sept_11_hijackers;_ylt=AolBmmEzBJSe.y1a1oYnIFUDW7oF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl |
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Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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The U.S. Intelligence Community has been firmly divided between foreign and domestic operations since 1947 because domestic intelligence activities tend to blur too much with law enforcement operations. Moreoever, serious rivalry in the community (CIA vs. Pentagon, MID vs. NIS, and, of course, CIA vs. FBI) is also explained by bureaucratic rivalry and mistrust. Is this a conspiracy?
People alleged "conspiracy" in the early 1970s in the aftermath of LBJ and Nixon's suspicions that the antiwar demonstrations were not home-grown but enemy intelligence operations. Nixon particularly asked CIA to infiltrate and investigate them.
CIA was consequently traumatized and decimated in 1975, which was in addition to Nixon's purges of it in 1973 (he forced approximately 7% of operations to retire or simply fired them).
Now, in the aftermath of 9/11, people are deciding that they want to criticize the intelligence community for not openly sharing intelligence information with each other -- intelligence that necessarily involved the domestic United States...
Could this simply be a decades-old problem that Americans have been unable to resolve (what if our intelligence service becomes a Gestapo!, many have feared) or is it just another conspiracy (they let 9/11 happen on purpose so that they could have their pretext to turn the intelligence services into a Gestapo!)?
What's the solution? Should they be able to freely exchange information with each other? |
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