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Korean Students Dislike Japan; Like Turkey
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:58 pm    Post subject: Korean Students Dislike Japan; Like Turkey Reply with quote

Korean Students' Dislike of Japan Not Shared by Japanese Counterparts
Korean students feel least friendly toward Japan, while Japanese students placed Korea as No. 2 on their list of nations they feel friendly towards after the United States, a survey has found.

Korean students cited past colonial rule, history distortions and the Dokdo issue as reasons why they did not feel friendly toward Japan, while Japanese students said they felt close to Korea because it is their neighbor, they see Korean entertainers on TV and because the two nations have much in common.

The survey showed that 44.9 percent of Korean students chose Japan as the nation they felt least friendly toward, followed by the United States with 42.8 percent and China with 7.5 percent. Japanese students named North Korea as the nation they felt least close to with 43 percent, followed by China (7.9 percent), Iraq (6.1 percent) and the United States (1.5 percent).

Korean students cited Turkey as the nation they felt closest to with 16.1 percent due to the "friendship they shared during the Korea-Japan World Cup in 2002," followed by the Netherlands (15.1 percent), citing "coach Gus Hiddink," who led Korea's national soccer team during the World Cup, and "flowers." North Korea came in third with 13.6 percent.
Chosun Ilbo (August 15, 2005)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200508/200508150017.html
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yemanja



Joined: 29 Sep 2004

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Korean Students Dislike Japan; Like Turkey Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:
Korean students cited Turkey as the nation they felt closest to with 16.1 percent due to the "friendship they shared during the Korea-Japan World Cup in 2002


Hilarious,
Turkey was the team that kicked Japan out of the World Cup.
Coincidence??
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Harpeau



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep in mind that Turkey at the time of the Korean War had just joined NATO and they sent the 3rd largest troop contingent to Korea. Mayn older Koreans have a very deep respect for Turkey and have not forgotten their great contribution to freedom. I guess they passed it down.

I personally love Turkey for their wonderful Sufi tradition~ love those Swirling Dirvishes! And the food! Don't get me started, I get hungry just thinking about it! Smile
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livinginkorea



Joined: 11 Jun 2004
Location: Korea, South of the border

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew that Koreans love Turkey but I never would have guessed that it would be the highest. I guessed that Holland would be first 'cas of the football.

Interesting as it was students that the report asked not older people who would remember the war. But citing on the friendship from the World Cup isn't enough to be placed as the highest in my opinion. Also Holland is second due to the World Cup as well.

I still can't understand why Koreans love the North after the war and abductions of South Koreans. Would they stand up if the North invaded tomorrow? Obviously some wouldn't! Confused
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You seriously can't understand why they love the north? Surprised
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ask your students how many of them have been to turkey(or want to go)..

Also ask them the capital (it ain't Istanbul) and other questions...

It really is a baffling survey that one
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diver



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harpeau wrote:
Keep in mind that Turkey at the time of the Korean War had just joined NATO and they sent the 3rd largest troop contingent to Korea.


A minor quibble, but, no....they didn't. Canada was the third largest contingent in Korea during the war. Turkey was fourth.

They seem to be selective when it comes to remembering who helped them out.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War
http://www.kvacanada.com/stories_jbperspective.htm
http://archives.cbc.ca/400d.asp?id=1-71-112-682&wm6=1
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/k/ko/korean_war.htm
http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/newsroom/view_news_e.asp?id=95
http://www.tcm-mec.gc.ca/97_01_13_JCKCbusl-en.asp

http://theseoultimes.com/ST/?url=/ST/db/read.php?idx=1174
http://korea50.army.mil/media/newsrelease/newsRelease_02-06.html
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200506/kt2005062419131011990.htm
http://www.axess.se/english/archive/2004/nr7/currentissue/theme_gur.php
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Wrench



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats wrong with Koreans. Least friendly with US at 42.8 percent. Why do they then go to American company establishments like Pizza hut, Starbucks etc. Man Americans should just end their alliance with ROK and leave South Koreans to fend for them selves.
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Hollywoodaction



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, they hate Japan for saying they've already appologized for the occupation (they have), but they love a country where the current government won't even admit its past genocidal tendencies. Kids.

There��s too many men
Too many people
Making too many problems
And not much love to go round
Can��t you see
This is a land of confusion.
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chiaa



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:04 am    Post subject: Re: Korean Students Dislike Japan; Like Turkey Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:
Korean Students' Dislike of Japan Not Shared by Japanese Counterparts
Korean students feel least friendly toward Japan, while Japanese students placed Korea as No. 2 on their list of nations they feel friendly towards after the United States, a survey has found.

Korean students cited past colonial rule, history distortions and the Dokdo issue as reasons why they did not feel friendly toward Japan, while Japanese students said they felt close to Korea because it is their neighbor, they see Korean entertainers on TV and because the two nations have much in common.

The survey showed that 44.9 percent of Korean students chose Japan as the nation they felt least friendly toward, followed by the United States with 42.8 percent and China with 7.5 percent. Japanese students named North Korea as the nation they felt least close to with 43 percent, followed by China (7.9 percent), Iraq (6.1 percent) and the United States (1.5 percent).

Korean students cited Turkey as the nation they felt closest to with 16.1 percent due to the "friendship they shared during the Korea-Japan World Cup in 2002," followed by the Netherlands (15.1 percent), citing "coach Gus Hiddink," who led Korea's national soccer team during the World Cup, and "flowers." North Korea came in third with 13.6 percent.
Chosun Ilbo (August 15, 2005)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200508/200508150017.html



This is actually very sad.
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rapier



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreans are essentially an island nation, cut off from any real/genuine knowledge of/ contact with other countries.

No wonder they base their flimsy allegiances on such things as "We feel close to Holland because Guus Hiddinck coached our team". Its clutching at straws.

Because their impressions of other nations are still basically a blank page, we should also realise that the way we act will probably tar our entire nation with the same characteristics in the eyes of any Korean onlookers.
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ed4444



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would imagine a contrasting poll of turkish students would reveal a difference rather quickly here.

But from my experience Korean students don't feel particularly close to any country. I think this is shown by them choosing a place that they have little trade/knowledge/modern connection with as no.1.
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joe_doufu



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who doesn't love turkey? Man, I'm gonna miss my family's Thanksgiving dinner this year, I could almost cry.
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buddy bradley



Joined: 24 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing that I've learned, is that when a Turkish guy refers to you as "my friend", well, that means that he's just about to set you up for a scam or rip you off.

So yeah, in a sense, they are friends.
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rumpolestitskin



Joined: 12 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wrench wrote:
Whats wrong with Koreans. Least friendly with US at 42.8 percent. Why do they then go to American company establishments like Pizza hut, Starbucks etc. Man Americans should just end their alliance with ROK and leave South Koreans to fend for them selves.


Lets not forget also that it was Americans who dropped them two bombs on Japan.

These people remind me of the French. Germany has invaded them twice yet the French still prefer them to the English or Amercans. Does anyone get the impression that if your average Korean knew where france was that they'd feel close to them too.

I too would love to see the Americans end any alliegence with ROK. Pull out all their forces from the country. See how long the foriegners who own most of the banks stay here for. See how long it takes them to take there money out of the country.

Without American troops on the boarder it would be Interesting to see how long this SK idea/fantasy of NK being there brothers realy is. Becasue I don't think NK shares the same opion after all these years.

Just think without the US pressence maybe NK would flex there muscle in a nuclear way. Nuclear fall out. We could see how good the miracle cure of Kimchee realy is.
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