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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Location: Next to a River
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:12 pm Post subject: I am ignorant - please enlighten |
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I have a question that I am curious of - after reading the below link.
http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=14370
Is Mr Livingstone a muslim? I don't mean this is in a negative way, it just seemed that he has been quite strongly supportive of the muslim community and its rights. I was just curious thats all, I don't really know much about him or his policies.
I was hoping someone could maybe explain him better to me. |
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jinglejangle

Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Location: Far far far away.
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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You're searching for enlightenment on DAVE'S!!!!!!
Oh brave soul.
Oh, and I don't know the answer to your question. |
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Swiss James

Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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no, he's not a muslim |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Location: Next to a River
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Ok. Does anuone know what policies he stands for? How has his policies and standards served London?
BY THE WAY, A FORUM FOR ENGLISH TEACHERS SHOULD BE THE ONE PLACE WE CAN GET TOGETHER TO DISCUSS EDUCATIONAL THINGS. OR IS THIS JUST A GRIPE AND PERSONAL ATTACK FORUM. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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BY THE WAY, A FORUM FOR ENGLISH TEACHERS SHOULD BE THE ONE PLACE WE CAN GET TOGETHER TO DISCUSS EDUCATIONAL THINGS. OR IS THIS JUST A GRIPE AND PERSONAL ATTACK FORUM. |
I don't think the two things are mutually exclusive. |
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Swiss James

Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know all that much about "Red Ken" as he's known- but the two policies of his that I've heard of are:
* introducing a congestion fare for central London, not popular with some people for obvious reasons, some people I know who live in London say the traffic situation is much better though
* a flat 1 quid (2,000 won) bus fare across the (entire?) city
generally (and this is just an impression, not borne out by anything as technical as research) I think he's popular- he certainly appears to make ballsy decisions for the common good.
Here's a statement from 7 July- the day of the London bombings.
This is his 'vision for London'
* strong and diverse economic growth
* social inclusivity to allow all Londoners to share in London's future success
* fundamental improvements in environmental management and use of resources. |
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hypnotist

Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Location: I wish I were a sock
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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He's not a Muslim, but he's very pro-Palestinian (in common with most of the British left). He used to be very left wing, but as mayor he embraced pragmatism.
He's also involved in a long-running feud with Associated Newspapers, so take anything you read about him in their titles with a serious pinch of salt.
He used to be considered a real loonie, but he does appear to be running London very well (with occasional loonie moments). |
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jinglejangle

Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Location: Far far far away.
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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Summer Wine wrote: |
Ok. Does anuone know what policies he stands for? How has his policies and standards served London?
BY THE WAY, A FORUM FOR ENGLISH TEACHERS SHOULD BE THE ONE PLACE WE CAN GET TOGETHER TO DISCUSS EDUCATIONAL THINGS. OR IS THIS JUST A GRIPE AND PERSONAL ATTACK FORUM. |
Take it easy man. That was a tounge in cheek jape aimed at the Daves community in general.
I find it difficult to believe you would take that as a personal attack.
Sorry it came off that way for you. |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Location: Next to a River
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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Fair enough. I do feel that the ability to have a serious discussion about issues with well educated people is often undermined by the abuse and disinformation and divergence from a topic, forcing oneself to struggle to find the good points among all the rubbish. (many times I am guilty of being a part of the problem and not a solution). |
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