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[hypnotist]

[Gopher]

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[hypnotist]

[joe_doufu]

[Gopher]

All that being said, Hypnotist, it will be a serious mistake for Bush not to accept Castro's doctors and then try to build on that to deescalate tensions between Washington and Havana (invite Castro to D.C., make a show of thanking him, etc.)...I have no illusions, however, that his Administration would be open to this line, so that's probably that.

It would do a lot to improve U.S.-Latin American relations, however, and, at the same time, deprive Chavez's sails of wind...ultimately, Castro has always wanted to be recognized and respected by Washington as a peer. If they did that, it would surely soften his defiant attitude...

[hypnotist]

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[hypnotist]

Indeed. And I wonder how much worse US-Cuba relations would get if Jeb won the White House in however many years it is.

I'm surprised you've not commented on the country that is for me the most surprising omission from your lists: Brazil... (oops, let's stick to English

[Gopher]

[hypnotist]

It was aid I was asking about, for the reasons you mentioned. I guess the corruption crisis in the PT must really have their attention. Wish I could read Portugese to check their media.

[matthewwoodford]

Here's a somewhat different reaction to international Katrina aid from a different forum.

[Summer Wine]

Quote:

Let's face it, the US is like the Daddy and the rest of the world's nations are like teenagers. They expect us to protect them from bullies, rescue them if they get too far in debt with that new credit card, and help them out in emergencies. They'll take our money every time we offer it, and regularly ask us for it when we don't offer, all the while they're bad mouthing us to their friends. But when we're in need, the most they'll do is make puppy dog eyes and hand over their piggy bank with a grand total of four dollars in it.

After further consideration, I have decided to edit this piece. I believe that is not worth the time or energy to defend the blow back that it will probably cause.

This is because, people are brought up in a society to model that societies views and attitudes. It is not feasible to believe that someone who is brought up to think a certain way will truly be aware of the discrepencies in thier society and thier societies attitudes and actions towards others.

I also do not wish to tar anyone with the same brush. America is a very disparate nation with many different views, not all supporting the current or past actions of thier govt. Thus to make sweeping statements makes me just as guilty of broadly whitewashing history and current attitudes and problems with the same emotional paint as others have done before whom I disagree with.

[peppermint]

[fidel]

Doufu boy stop your childish sermonizing and look at some cold hard facts.


Here's the ranking of contries by relief aid per capita per day

1. Norway 21.04
2. Sweden 11.81
3. Denmark 5.95
4. Switzerland 5.85
5. Netherlands 5.15
6. Belgium 2.94
7. United Kingdom 2.58
8. Finland 2.38
9. United States 2.34
10. France 2.17
11. Canada 2.10
12. Australia 1.93
13. Ireland 1.83
14. Austria 1.23
15. New Zealand 1.18
16. Spain 0.61
17. Germany 0.61
18. Italy 0.42
19. Greece 0.27
20. Japan 0.06
21. Portugal 0.03

9th, far short of the top givers.

[some waygug-in]

Something to remember about the Red Cross:

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/print/CTVNews/1025063584263_20472784?hub=CTVNewsAt11&subhub=PrintStory


Not all funds going to victims: U.S. Red Cross





CTV News Staff

Updated: Mon. Oct. 29 2001 8:21 PM ET

It appears that only some of the millions of dollars raised for the victims of September 11 will reach their intended targets. The American Red Cross acknowledged Monday some money will be used for other broad-based needs instead.

The organization says about $550 million US has been pledged to its fund established for the victims of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, The Liberty Fund.

Of that amount, some will not go directly to victims families or recovery efforts, but instead will be spent on such programs as a blood reserve program, and administration upgrades. Some would also go to regular community outreach work.

"It takes a lot of money to do a lot of work. We believe very much that we are honouring donor intent," Red Cross spokesman Mitch Hibbs said. "Yes, we are helping the families, but we're also helping everyone else."

But it's not just some of the money that's being diverted: about $105 million US will go to the agency's administrative costs and long-term goals. More than half of that money will be used for improvements to telecommunications, accounting and database management systems.

Charity watchdogs note the Red Cross usually meets high standards overall. But Daniel Borochoff, president of the watchdog group American Institute of Philanthropy, says the Red Cross has not clearly publicized its distribution plans for The Liberty Fund. That's a mistake, he says.

He also questions the need for a separate collection effort in the first place, because he says it will create unrealistic expectations that all donations would go directly to victims of the Sept. 11 attacks.

Red Cross President Bernadine Healy created the Liberty Fund soon after the Sept 11 attacks. But she resigned from the group Friday over disputes between with the charity's board of directors over the account and the uses of the money.

"I strongly oppose commingling of the monies with any other Red Cross disaster funds. Reasonable people can differ," Healy said last week.

The Canadian Red Cross has given $10 million Cdn to the fund, said Canadian Red Cross spokeswoman Suzanne Charest. But it received just $146,000 from the public for relief efforts in Afghanistan.

The International Red Cross has appealed for $88 million in donations for Afghans inside the country and those in refugee camps in Pakistan and Iran.