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joe_doufu

Joined: 09 May 2005 Location: Elsewhere
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:17 am Post subject: korean is useless but taking korean classes helps me teach |
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I had a very successful class today with a group of three adults. I won't tell my Korean teacher this, but I basically stole all of the teaching techniques she's used on me in the past month at Seoul Korean Language Academy and used them on my adult students. (I've had an adult free-talking class all along, but three students just started at the same time last week so I took it as an opportunity to start using a textbook and make a real lesson plan.) It went over marvelously! |
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shortskirt_longjacket

Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Location: fitz and ernie are my raison d'etre
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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That's an expensive way to improve your teaching. |
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xtchr
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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So what are the techniques you stole? Please share what worked so well.
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:35 pm Post subject: Re: korean is useless but taking korean classes helps me tea |
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joe_doufu wrote: |
I had a very successful class today with a group of three adults. I won't tell my Korean teacher this, but I basically stole all of the teaching techniques she's used on me in the past month at Seoul Korean Language Academy and used them on my adult students. (I've had an adult free-talking class all along, but three students just started at the same time last week so I took it as an opportunity to start using a textbook and make a real lesson plan.) It went over marvelously! |
Agree. I took Korean in Seattle and it gave me a lot of ideas. As well, simply being able to help the students along with the matching Korean nouns and verbs helps. "No no... you don't drive a plane... you... anyone? anyone? you nal-da a plane." "Fly?" "Yes." |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Location: $eoul
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Joe,
Any chance of some details about your Korean classes - price in particular?
Cheers. |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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The Korean class I'm taking now has shown me how not to teach a class. The teacher is doing everything I realized was a terrible idea when I was a rookie.  |
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joe_doufu

Joined: 09 May 2005 Location: Elsewhere
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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SPINOZA wrote: |
Joe,
Any chance of some details about your Korean classes - price in particular?
Cheers. |
Sure, it's Seoul Korean Language Academy. Google it, it's also called Seoul KLA. I study five days a week for two hours, 10 to noon, and the tuition is 320,000 i think. That's pretty fair for forty hours a month and the quality of the teaching (so far) is excellent. |
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SuperHero

Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Location: Superhero Hideout
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Hater Depot wrote: |
The Korean class I'm taking now has shown me how not to teach a class. The teacher is doing everything I realized was a terrible idea when I was a rookie.  |
Are studying at YBM? |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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No, I'm in the US. Studying at Rutgers for a few months before heading back to Korea. I think I've posted about it before.. 29/31 students in a low intermediate class are gyopo, grew up speaking Korean at home, most with fairly advanced ability level. So not only is it not taught at a low intermediate level, basically every class is 90 minutes of lecture 100% in Korean. Very few chances for students to participate in any way other then practicing scripted dialogues with a partner. No checks of comprehension other than ludicrously easy exams.
This is how my school last year had me teach for several months before I realized the students weren't learning jack from me. At least now I know how they felt, sitting in class bored and understanding 5 -- 10% of what teacher says. |
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ajuma

Joined: 18 Feb 2003 Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 9:10 am Post subject: |
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I am by FAR the worst Korean-language student EVER!!! It takes me forever to learn the most basic things....BUT!!!! When I do learn something new, I can usually find a way to apply it to my teaching.
For example: Most Korean students pronounce "zoo" like ��. It doesn't sound like that at all!!! That is "Jew"! I found that �� sounds MUCH more like "zoo" than �� does! |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Location: the crib
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:50 am Post subject: |
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ajuma wrote: |
I am by FAR the worst Korean-language student EVER!!! It takes me forever to learn the most basic things....BUT!!!! When I do learn something new, I can usually find a way to apply it to my teaching.
For example: Most Korean students pronounce "zoo" like ��. It doesn't sound like that at all!!! That is "Jew"! I found that �� sounds MUCH more like "zoo" than �� does! |
Ack. Don't teach them transliteration. Sue is a name, not a place to house exotic animals.
Just teach them how to say "z". Practice saying "buzzzzz" and show them tongue placement. |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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I think it's always good to know how it feels on the other side of the desk. Sure, you can pick up a few tricks and techniques, but more importantly, you gain empathy with your students and probably more patience. |
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ajuma

Joined: 18 Feb 2003 Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:17 am Post subject: |
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Qinella wrote: |
ajuma wrote: |
I am by FAR the worst Korean-language student EVER!!! It takes me forever to learn the most basic things....BUT!!!! When I do learn something new, I can usually find a way to apply it to my teaching.
For example: Most Korean students pronounce "zoo" like ��. It doesn't sound like that at all!!! That is "Jew"! I found that �� sounds MUCH more like "zoo" than �� does! |
Ack. Don't teach them transliteration. Sue is a name, not a place to house exotic animals.
Just teach them how to say "z". Practice saying "buzzzzz" and show them tongue placement. |
Been there...done that...over and over and over again. I've taught "Smile when you say it"...and "Smile (for the Z) and kiss (O)" and STILL no progress...or very little anyway!
If you think about it, when we say "I'm going to the zoo" we DO make the Z sound more like an S than a Z. |
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