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desultude

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:22 pm Post subject: Is this a good job? |
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English Instructor Needed at the Naval Administration School English Department in Jinhae
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Posted By: ROK Navy <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, 30 November 2005, at 1:36 p.m.
We are looking for an experienced teacher who is dedicated to helping students improve their skills.
This school has two 16-week courses, classes for officers and NCOs going abroad, and kids classes during school breaks from time to time.�� The students are mostly men ages 25-40 who have no duties other than to study English while at the school.�� There are three foreign teachers at the school and four Korean teachers.
Qualifications:
At least four years teaching experience in Korea.�� TESOL or CELTA certificates or higher are required.
Responsibilities:��
Office hours: 8-5
Teaching hours: 4-6 hours per day with a maximum of 30 hours per week
There is a rotational schedule for teaching a two-hour Saturday class.�� It is held every other Saturday and is rotated between the foreign teachers. Compensation is provided.
Working conditions:
Salary: 1.8 million won
Vacation: 3 weeks per year
Health Insurance: the employee has access to free naval medical care
Housing: A 2-bedroom apartment is provided on a navy base.�� It is very quiet and safe.�� The navy pays for electricity, water, and a stipend for the gas bill.�� The teacher is responsible for paying a monthly fee of \23,000, anything above the gas stipend, phone, and internet fees.
Pension: 4.5% is paid by the navy and 4.5% is deducted from the teacher's salary
Severance: 1.8 million won
Visa run: Airfare to Japan will be provided, the remaining expenses in Japan will be covered by the teacher. |
Yikes! Someone who has been teaching in Korea will work from 8-5, sometimes on Saturdays, with three weeks holiday, for 1.8?  |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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(1) Naval officers would make for an interesting group of students.
(2) You'd also be teaching English for a Special Purpose: they're going abroad so they need communication skills.
(3) And the location isn't bad.
I'd do it for up to six months just for the experience.
Take the job and I'll gladly do the tail end of the contract from September onward.
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Talk to Yata-boy about navel officers.
I saw a few military jobs with much better hours and 2.2 / month offered last summer, so this one looks pretty sucky. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
Talk to Yata-boy about navel officers. |
What does he know about their navels?
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I saw a few military jobs with much better hours and 2.2 / month offered last summer, so this one looks pretty sucky. |
Better how? A bit more money perhaps. A few less hours a week work. There are other considerations. |
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desultude

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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I suppose for the experience it could be interesting, but it is way too many hours for the pay. No, at thirty teaching hours a week, it is just too many teaching hours, period. I know hogwan teachers do it, but it is not optimal for good teaching to be on that many hours. And what do you do with the other mandatory hours? Nine hours a day, five or six of them teaching, for 1.8- not a good job. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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VanIslander wrote: |
Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
Talk to Yata-boy about navel officers. |
What does he know about their navels?
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I saw a few military jobs with much better hours and 2.2 / month offered last summer, so this one looks pretty sucky. |
Better how? A bit more money perhaps. A few less hours a week work. There are other considerations. |
The one I applied for, but didn't get, was 15 lessons a week Mon-Fri at the air force academy for 2.2. |
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Paddycakes
Joined: 05 May 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Does the job description also include Rum and Sodomy? |
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riley
Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Location: where creditors can find me
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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uh,uh,uh, use the proper naval terms. It's GROG and BUGGERY. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think the military is looking for crude or rude or greedy or lazy teachers.
Everyone on this thread need not apply (present company included, for rudeness). |
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plato's republic
Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Location: Ancient Greece
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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They're not looking to pay decent wages either. Sod the experience, it's a crap job. |
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JongnoGuru

Joined: 25 May 2004 Location: peeing on your doorstep
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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And they've already shanghaied three other foreigners into their ranks, presumably on similar terms. That's a very real pity, if true.
I'm sure I sound like an ass for saying this, but regardless of the working hours, what the HELL is 1.8 mil./month in Korea in this day & age?! 
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bellum99

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: don't need to know
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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I have a mantra:
"It's all about the money, it's all about the money,it's all about the money".
This has too many hours and not enough money. |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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Paddycakes wrote: |
Does the job description also include Rum and Sodomy? |
Yes, but not the Lash. |
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cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 4:04 am Post subject: |
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... and as a bonus for naval gazing (Is that looking out to sea or see?) at navel officer's navals you get naval orangeeeees!  |
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Mr. Pink

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: China
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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I have to agree, that job sucks.
For 30hrs a week teaching I'd expect no less than 3mil a month.
I am not lazy, but IMO it is just stupid to take less pay for a job that probably won't give you any self improvement in your craft. |
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