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The Canadian election: Who do you want to win?
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Which party would you like to see win the most seats?
Liberals
17%
 17%  [ 9 ]
Conservatives
45%
 45%  [ 23 ]
NDP
21%
 21%  [ 11 ]
BQ
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
Greens
13%
 13%  [ 7 ]
Total Votes : 51

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RachaelRoo



Joined: 15 Jul 2005
Location: Anywhere but Ulsan!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:27 am    Post subject: The Canadian election: Who do you want to win? Reply with quote

Seems like a pretty crappy excuse for a choice, but that's all we've got.

Either way, taxes will go up, the cost of living will rise, wages will go down, and democracy will get another slap in the face from our Canadian "Representative" democratic system.

And more Canadian graduates will flow to east Asia for the chance to earn a living.

Nonetheless, which party do you think is the least terrible?
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cypher



Joined: 08 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need an "anyone but the PC/Reform/Alliance/Whatever they're calling themselves these days" option.
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The Man known as The Man



Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only circumstance I would ever support the arse-backwards proportiaonal representation sysem supported by perpetual losers, the NDP would be if the BQ could get votes for every riding in the country, even without fielding candidates-they would more than likely be the Official Opposition, and the distinctly anti-semitic society would leave that much sooner.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think 'who do you want to lose' would be more apt in this case.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liberals: Past scandals, gun registry debacle. Been in power way too long. However, they've turned in year after year budget surpluses practically since coming to power, kept Canada out of both a recession and the Iraq war, and Paul Martin is the level headed, non religious zealot most Canadians like to run our country.

Conservatives: There's been no conservative government in living memory that has implemented conservative economic policies, unless you define "conservative economic policies" as "giving the USA whatever it wants". The Mulroney government ran up the debt beyond anything Trudeau dreamed of, gave Amex chartered bank status, and then when he quit as PM took a job with Amex. The PCs today want to roll back decades of social progress and run the country on biblical principles. Great.

NDP: Ha ha. Yeah, like you guys got a plan. Not bad watching the Liberal's six in a minority government. They make all kinds of great promises which they can't ever possibly deliver.

BQ: Not a choice if you live outside of Quebec.

Greens: Get a haircut ya dirty hippies! See comments for the NDP and double them.

In my 19 years as a voting citizen, I've voted liberal, ndp, pc, and reform. I'd vote for the liberals this time around for sure.
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Octavius Hite



Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't especially like the Liberals and their sense of entitlement that has come with too much time in power, however the Conservatives just can't be trusted. The last time they were in power was so disastorous that we still haven't really recovered. As well a majority of canadians don't accept conservative policies when it comes to the social issues. And finally Stephen Harper aka Bush Light can have all the free votes he wants on it but the only way to get rid of gay marriage in Canada is to use the notwithstanding clause, there is absolutly no other way. I don't want to live in a country where we use the constitution to discriminate against a large part of our population because a bunch of church leaders don't like it. Who are we run by Ottawa or Vatican City?

All that said I voted Green!
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cypher



Joined: 08 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, I know some people will probably think this is a bass-ackwards question but....

Can I vote without messing up my non-residency?

Yes, I want to vote for the future of my country but I don't currently want to pay Canadian taxes.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cypher wrote:
Yes, I want to vote for the future of my country but I don't currently want to pay Canadian taxes.


I kind of figured last go if I'm not paying taxes I don't really have much of a right to cast a vote.
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
cypher wrote:
Yes, I want to vote for the future of my country but I don't currently want to pay Canadian taxes.


I kind of figured last go if I'm not paying taxes I don't really have much of a right to cast a vote.


I feel the same. I'm non-resident so I shouldn't vote. I also got British citizenship a couple years ago, and I sure don't feel the right to vote in any election there (even if I knew how).
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cypher



Joined: 08 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But I love my country...unfortunately it doesn't love me very much right now. Confused Though I suppose, you're right. It might be different if I were paying taxes, keeping ties and all that.
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Moldy Rutabaga



Joined: 01 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not remember Harper specifically stating he wants to abolish gay marriages-- only that he wants the electorate and the MPs to have a say in the controversial matter-- what a novel idea!

Quote:
Who are we run by Ottawa or Vatican City?

I don't want either running us. I want the citizens to have an effective say in the governing of this country without the antiquated institutions that muzzle us.

Ken:>
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Octavius Hite



Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes you can vote without affecting your non-res status as long as you have been on Canadian soil sometime in the last 5 years.

As for Harper and gay marriage, there was a free vote his beef is that cabinet ministers weren't allowed a free vote. Do you really believe that he will allow his cabinet ministers to vote against him, keep smoking! As proof let me ask you, last election Harper and the conservatives were so angry they started talking about proportational representation, now that they see an oopertunity to win they have dropped all mention of it whatsoever.... hmmmm, good thing they're not power hungry like those b*stard Liberals.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Octavius Hite wrote:
. And finally Stephen Harper aka Bush Light can have all the free votes he wants on it but the only way to get rid of gay marriage in Canada is to use the notwithstanding clause, there is absolutly no other way. I !



Wrong. Most polls show that Canadians (accounting for the margin of error) are pretty evenly split along this issue. All it would take is for a extra few thousand supporters to stay home and a extra few thousand opposers to come out. And Stephen Harper wants Canadians to decide. Not church leaders and not politicians. Democracy in action.
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Hyalucent



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: British North America

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a bit of a sidenote: I was just surfing around for election coverage and typed "Canadian Election Discussion" into Google. The CBC predictably took the first two spots in the search results... but this thread and Dave's ESL came up in 3rd and 4th place!

Shocked
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hyalucent wrote:
As a bit of a sidenote: I was just surfing around for election coverage and typed "Canadian Election Discussion" into Google. The CBC predictably took the first two spots in the search results... but this thread and Dave's ESL came up in 3rd and 4th place!

Shocked

Wow, that's really kind of... pathetic, in a way. Not to denigrate Dave's but shouldn't there be a whole bunch of people discussing this more?
And tangentially:
So, how many people here who regularly spout off on political issues are putting their money where their mouths are and have made arrangements to vote?
Roo?
Moldy?
Wrench?
TUM?
VI?

You don't have very much time left at all.

http://www.elections.ca/content.asp?section=ele&document=index&dir=39ge/ec78610&lang=e&textonly=false

http://www.elections.ca/content.asp?section=ins&document=index&dir=snow&lang=e&textonly=false
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