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just arrived in seoul, overwhelmed, need help!

 
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SNoh84



Joined: 05 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:48 pm    Post subject: just arrived in seoul, overwhelmed, need help! Reply with quote

Hey all,
This is my first post in the forum but I've been reading postings for a few weeks now and many of you seem like great people.

Anyway, after reading countless debates on whether it's better to come to Seoul and find a job or get one while you're in America, I decided to buy a ticket over here and start looking. I just arrived in Seoul a few days ago and am now mired in the job search. The things I'm looking for are pretty basic (acutally it's a list that that fuzzy body haired poster put up - you know who you are!):

-2.0 million for 120 teaching hours/mo
-free non-shared apartment
-roundtrip airfare reimbursed
-block shift
-health insurance
-pension
-Monday-Friday schedule, NO SATURDAYS
-2 weeks vacation
-all national holidays off (no need to make them up)
-any overtime is optional, paid at the rate of 120% of your standard hourly pay
-position in seoul

I've been searching the job postings board at Dave's and emailing recruiters asking if they can find me a position that fits these qualifications, but I'm still having trouble finding a position. Any suggestions? Should I lower my requirements? Any advice would be appreciated TONS!

oh, also, I'm a kyopo and I have an F-4 visa. Not sure if that helps or hurts me. Thanks!
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look through some of the ads on Daves. There was a post looking for kyopos paying about 3.7 a while back.

Do you speak Korean?

If you do you can pretty easily get a directors job for about 2.5 or more(just dont screw people over if you get it)
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SNoh84



Joined: 05 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I speak very little korean...just about enough to explain to Koreans that I don't speak Korean well but not enough to answer followup questions of why I never learned.

wow, thanks for the quick response grotto!
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're here you don't need round-trip airfare - just a ticket home. That will already be a drawing card. I don't know much about what there is for Kyopos, but I do know that the job board for the site that rhymes with rectum has a number of jobs for Kyopos. PM me if you don't know what site I'm talking about.
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BigBlackEquus



Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Location: Lotte controls Asia with bad chocolate!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try www.worknplay.co.kr if you haven't already.
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Hobophobic



Joined: 16 Aug 2004
Location: Sinjeong negorie mokdong oh ga ri samgyup sal fighting

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigBlackEquus wrote:
Try www.worknplay.co.kr if you haven't already.


I have to agree there, work n play and Ann are nice - something you don't find often in that field of work...good luck!
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skconqueror



Joined: 31 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hobophobic wrote:
BigBlackEquus wrote:
Try www.worknplay.co.kr if you haven't already.


I have to agree there, work n play and Ann are nice - something you don't find often in that field of work...good luck!


But incompetent, which you find with most recruiters.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may face some discrimination because you're kyopo, but that F4 visa gives you two huge advantages. One is that you won't need an E-2 visa, so your boss won't have to pay for a visa run, and you'd be able to start immediately. Also, and probably more importantly, you aren't chained to the E-2 system of indentured servitude, so if you end up with a bad job or just find something better, you won't need to ask anyone's permission to quit your job and get a new one.

If you're having trouble with in the kiddie hogwon scene, you might want to try adult hogwons. A lot of the big adult hogwon chains frequently hire kyopos, and seem to offer more reasonable conditions to their kyopo employees than they do to non-ethnic Korean foreigners (i.e. no split shifts). The only downside is that they usually don't offer (completely) free housing.
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Hobophobic



Joined: 16 Aug 2004
Location: Sinjeong negorie mokdong oh ga ri samgyup sal fighting

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*double*

Last edited by Hobophobic on Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:29 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Hobophobic



Joined: 16 Aug 2004
Location: Sinjeong negorie mokdong oh ga ri samgyup sal fighting

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skconqueror wrote:
Hobophobic wrote:
BigBlackEquus wrote:
Try www.worknplay.co.kr if you haven't already.


I have to agree there, work n play and Ann are nice - something you don't find often in that field of work...good luck!


But incompetent, which you find with most recruiters.


Do tell....

I dealt with a recruiter back in 2001 who fits that description, and went on my own until last year - Ann and Wn'P were helpful to me while I was also looking on my own.

I agree with you and many others...you can and in many cases should steer clear of recruiters...but when someone is already here, and looking for a job, why not have someone else checking around for you at the same time you are? You aren't out anything by doing so.... Confused
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skconqueror



Joined: 31 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They might be great for required documentation, and such for E-2 visa applicants, but are piss poor for those with F-2. They didnt know the difference between the two, and even after my explaination (and my wifes) about procedures and what is needed she continued to argue the opposite. I finally asked her to call immigration to confirm, yet she would not. I did end up taking a position with them, but it was as annoying as hell. If we had not just arrived back in Korea, and needed to get something quickly I would never have gone with them (or any recruiter for that matter).
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Hobophobic



Joined: 16 Aug 2004
Location: Sinjeong negorie mokdong oh ga ri samgyup sal fighting

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

skconqueror wrote:
They might be great for required documentation, and such for E-2 visa applicants, but are piss poor for those with F-2. They didnt know the difference between the two, and even after my explaination (and my wifes) about procedures and what is needed she continued to argue the opposite.


True, I have an F2 as well...does anyone who does paperwork in this country (ie. immigration, hogwans, recruiters...etc) know the difference....other than those of us who have one though Wink
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