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Wrench



Joined: 07 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:06 pm    Post subject: Is Canada doomed? Reply with quote

Is Canada that divided that there is no way it will reconcile the differences between east and the west.

I think so myself. Until our electoral system changes Canada will be doomed to have minority government. I hope personally that separatist movement will get a huge boost in the west due to the different political ideologies.

What are your thought fellow Canucks.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin's resigning so we'll have to see what the Libs come up with. I think minority governments aren't such a bad thing. When this one falls I suspect it will be another 4-5 years of a Liberal majority, which seems to be best for keeping everything glued and bandaged together.
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Newbie



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not at all...

Next election will give us a majority. If the Cons. tank now, Liberals win a majority. If they do well, they will win a majority. Simple as that.

The West has got to stop pretending like they can really influence Canadian politics.
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Octavius Hite



Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, this win by the conservatives was not an endorsement of their policies or beliefs, it was a rejection of the Liberals. Canadians want fiscal conservatism and social progressivness. That won't change. If the Cons get rid of the wingnuts like Stockwell Day, jason Kenney, and the others then the rest of Canada will get behind them. Had Peter Mackay been the leader or Bernard Lord they probably would have gotten my vote.
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Alias



Joined: 24 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stephen Harper ran on a moderate conservative platform. His only concession to social conservatives was for another vote on Same-Sex marriage. A vote which will fail because they don't have the numbers.

Considering they only have a minority government there isn't anything 'radical' that they can really do.
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alias wrote:
Considering they only have a minority government there isn't anything 'radical' that they can really do.


Hopefully Shocked
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fiveeagles



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

radical??? Being a country that supports homosexual marriages isn't that what radical is?

I think you guys have this mixed up.
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gay marriage issue = boring
Space travel = 100% awesome
Anyone who talks about gay marriage more than space travel = boring
I don't know what to think about marriage anymore, except that only in a few cases does it ever work out the way it's supposed to be. Marriage over here is so different I've probably become quite jaded towards it all. Cheating on your spouse is nothing in many cases because quite often the spouse has been chosen by a person's parents. OTOH my best friend back home has just told me that his wife is pregnant which is awesome. He's a devout Catholic, though he went through quite a bit before that as did I.
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fiveeagles wrote:
radical??? Being a country that supports homosexual marriages isn't that what radical is?

I think you guys have this mixed up.


Fortunately, many Canadians see this instead...

Being a country that supports homosexual marriages = being a country that treats all people as human beings with the same amount of freedom (assuming ofcourse it doesn't interfer with others.)

If they ever try to make churches perform the ceremony against their wishes, I will be fighting on the Christian side. But for now, Christians fighting this are just people trying to force bigotry on others and hiding behind a very old book.
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fiveeagles



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mithridates wrote:
Gay marriage issue = boring
Space travel = 100% awesome
Anyone who talks about gay marriage more than space travel = boring
I don't know what to think about marriage anymore, except that only in a few cases does it ever work out the way it's supposed to be. Marriage over here is so different I've probably become quite jaded towards it all. Cheating on your spouse is nothing in many cases because quite often the spouse has been chosen by a person's parents. OTOH my best friend back home has just told me that his wife is pregnant which is awesome. He's a devout Catholic, though he went through quite a bit before that as did I.


Unfortunately, the church has lost most its revelance because its own divorce rate equals that of the world. However, that is changing and the stats are improving for the church. A lot of my friends are in happy relationships and deep in love with one another. Our church went through many marriages before we left. Lots of children happening! Lots of fun!

Congradulations with your friend! That's great!

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Christians fighting this are just people trying to force bigotry on others and hiding behind a very old book.


Right now, Christians do not have the authority to stand against such an important matter so I can understand why you see this as bigotry.

Sometimes, old things are good things. It is generally, only the north american culture disregards the wisdom of it's ancients.


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Troll_Bait



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suggestion:

If you would like to discuss the issue of gay marriage,
how about starting a new thread in the "Off-Topic" board?
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fiveeagles wrote:
mithridates wrote:
Gay marriage issue = boring
Space travel = 100% awesome
Anyone who talks about gay marriage more than space travel = boring
I don't know what to think about marriage anymore, except that only in a few cases does it ever work out the way it's supposed to be. Marriage over here is so different I've probably become quite jaded towards it all. Cheating on your spouse is nothing in many cases because quite often the spouse has been chosen by a person's parents. OTOH my best friend back home has just told me that his wife is pregnant which is awesome. He's a devout Catholic, though he went through quite a bit before that as did I.


Unfortunately, the church has lost most its revelance because its own divorce rate equals that of the world. However, that is changing and the stats are improving for the church. A lot of my friends are in happy relationships and deep in love with one another. Our church went through many marriages before we left. Lots of children happening! Lots of fun!

Congradulations with your friend! That's great!



Here was the entire message from him, typically brief:

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D,

Want to know what's crazy?

L is pregnant.

That's crazy.

Thanks be to God.

Amen.

Brother E

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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I hope he improves relations with the US.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I'm very happy with the election results- 4 out of 5 of my expectations were reached.

1. Liberals out
2. Conservatives held to a minority (Canada has to start getting used to consensus-building governments, and this doesn't have to be a bad thing)
3. BQ doesn't acheive 50% goals in Quebec.
4. NDP gains seats.
5. The only disappointment (and it's a minor one because it was expected due the 'strategic' voters) was that Greens didn't make any inroads.
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doublejeopardy



Joined: 16 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes...no. i'm just depressed and will get over it in a few days.

is the country doomed to minority governments? no. the government before last was a majority, if i'm not mistaken. there've been minorities before, there will be majorities again.
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