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Zundel abandons fight to stay in Canada
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Do you agree with Zundel's deportation ???
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No
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Ummm ... i think i need more information
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blackbird



Joined: 28 Apr 2003
Location: Songtan

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"We need to come up with the ONE solution of the problem, the solution to that problem is, how we are going to exterminate white people. We have to exterminate white people off the face of the planet"



rtsp://video.c-span.org/project/hur/hur101405_media.rm

Fast forward to 3.40 an you will hear one of America's esteemed black leaders speaking this and other nonsense on a publicly funded tv station. Come on Canada and Germany. If I have to listen to this retard, surely you can put up with one senile old Nazi.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But he's not Canada's Nazi, nor the USA's- he's Germany's, and by his own choice .
So while we might have to put up with our own racist dickheads, we have no reason to put up with him- so we didn't.

And we all lived happily ever after.
The end.
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blackbird



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, but what happens when we lose the right to "put up with our own racist dickheads?"

Here is a case where the UN is telling a Danish man that he has no right to draw a picure of Muhammad, even in his own country! I fear the thought police.

UN to Investigate Racism of Danish Cartoonists

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2005/brussels120805.htm
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blackbird wrote:
I agree, but what happens when we lose the right to "put up with our own racist *beep*?"

Here is a case where the UN is telling a Danish man that he has no right to draw a picure of Muhammad, even in his own country! I fear the thought police.

UN to Investigate Racism of Danish Cartoonists

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2005/brussels120805.htm


Thanks for posting that link of interest Blackbird ... the UN is far from the benevolent institution it tries to promote. In case you haven't noticed global agencies such as this are increasingly proving a serious threat not only to our respective national sovereignties, but equally disturbingly, our individual rights & freedoms as well Twisted Evil

If you haven't already, i'd strongly encourage you to look into the "history" of the UN.

With repect to Zundel not only are we dealing with a serious violation of a man's inherent rights, this whole affair is also built on a dangerously slippery slope.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=slippery+slope

In Germany they first came for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.

Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.

Pastor Martin Niemoller
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khyber



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:

In Germany they first came for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me —
and by that time no one was left to speak up.
Pastor Martin Niemoller

so let's see...you are using the argument that nazis came after everyone without discrimination to argue that we shouldn't go after nazis WITH or without discrimination?

the mobius strip of arguments.... i can see it vanish into two dimensional space...

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With repect to Zundel not only are we dealing with a serious violation of a man's inherent rights, this whole affair is also built on a dangerously slippery slope.
are you worried that MORE people will start to sell nazi paraphenalia?
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

khyber wrote:
so let's see...you are using the argument that nazis came after everyone without discrimination to argue that we shouldn't go after nazis WITH or without discrimination?

Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster.

And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
Friedrich Nietzsche


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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


Interesting segment ... stay tuned! Idea
http://www.wingtv.net/todaysshow/012306cc.ram
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Friday, January 06, 2006
Let Ernst Zundel and David Irving Go Home
"I am uncomfortable with imprisoning people for speech.��
-Deborah Lipstadt, on historian David Irving


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4578534.stm



Ernst Zundel and David Irving may be filled with hate, but they should not be treated as criminals. The German and Austrian governments are the ones who have committed outrageous crimes by jailing these men for voicing their opinions about the Holocaust.

Zundel and Irving may be two of the world��s most infamous Holocaust deniers. But they have not initiated physical violence against anyone. They have not ordered others to commit violence.

Instead, Germany has put Zundel on trial for operating the Zundelsite website, which contains statements that the Holocaust is a fiction. It��s illegal in Germany to be a Holocaust denier. In November, Irving was arrested in Austria for two speeches he made in 1989, during which he allegedly claimed there had been no gas chambers at Auschwitz.

It��s illegal in Austria to be a Holocaust denier.

The governments of Germany and Austria want to send Zundel and Irving to prison for many years for publicly expressing these beliefs.

Many liberal democracies around the world have passed laws that allow them to fine or imprison people for making public utterances that don��t conform exactly to the official version of the Nazi Holocaust. Canada didn��t like what Zundel said or wrote about the Holocaust.

Last spring, Canadian officials shipped Zundel to Germany where they knew he would face prosecution for his speech. Zundel had immigrated to Canada from Germany in 1958 at the age of 19.

Instead of creating free and open societies, the governments involved in the prosecution of Zundel and Irving are carrying on the ignoble traditions of the Nazis by targeting people for their beliefs. Who are the nations confronting Germany, Austria and Canada for their roles in these grave injustices? There are none.

In fact, many are following these nations�� example.

In France, Bruno Gollnisch, a professor at Lyon University, deputy leader of the extreme right French party, National Front, and a member of the European parliament, is facing charges before a French