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Homer
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| But some of the practices that contribute to a dog's death here before it is killed and put in your soup bowl are absolutely repugnant. That's an undeniable fact. |
That statement could (and should?) go like this as well:
But some of the practices that contribute to a cow's, pig's, chicken's death here before it is killed and put in your plate are absolutely repugnant. That's an undeniable fact.
Carry on meat eater. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:13 am Post subject: Re: dogs |
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..the best way to end this is by the non-acceptace of other cultures.
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What right have you to insist that your culture is superior to all other cultures? |
Did I miss something here? |
ummm "non-acceptace of other cultures" Notice the poster didn't say non--acceptance of cultures just "other cultures" By that the poster is placing his/her culture above those of the "others" It's very clear.
S/He is saying we should not accept other cultures. Therefore the poster's culture is considered the only acceptable standard, thus being superior. |
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TheUrbanMyth
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| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:17 am Post subject: |
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Most of what I read from you has something to do with anti-apologist troll baiting. This thread is no exception. It would just be easier if you admitted it.
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Exactly. Anyway now he knows that most people (according to the poll) feel that dog-eating should be acceptable in other countries. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:36 am Post subject: |
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| Exactly. Anyway now he knows that most people (according to the poll) feel that dog-eating should be acceptable in other countries. |
and this makes him angry because he was looking for a poll that would confirm his view that eating dogs is horrible and that by extension...Korea is horrible and that by extension he was all good and clearly from the "suprior" place... 
One too many extensions based on a shoddy assumption. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:28 am Post subject: |
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from the standpoint of physics alone it's 100% BAD KARMA kids ...
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WTF???  |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
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| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:39 am Post subject: |
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Well, I'd add "Igotthisguitar" to my list of "Great Conspiracy Thinkers Who are Vegetarians", but I'm not sure whether he's actually vegetarian yet - or is just now realizing that it's the best way to live (and let live...  ) |
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Gorgias
Joined: 27 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:08 am Post subject: |
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| some of the practices that contribute to a dog's death here before it is killed and put in your soup bowl are absolutely repugnant. That's an undeniable fact. |
Is it?
Or is it just xenophobic, ignorant trash-talk?
I want to see pictures or personal eye-witness accounts to substantiate the alleged cruel treatment of dogs prior to butcher. I have been to the Moran Dog Market many times, and I did not see one thing that would suggest any beating going on. Sorry, but I am not convinced. I want very recent pictures, or first hand accounts written by members from this forum. |
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Privateer
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| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:19 am Post subject: |
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I'm going to side-step the 'why not eat dog if you'll eat beef' debate and focus on animal cruelty.
I ate dog on my first day here out of curiosity and before I knew how they were killed. Now that I've heard the stories about how they're killed I wouldn't eat it again.
Sure animals are abused in the factory farm system but dogs here are strung up, beaten to death with sticks and even blow-torched. I've heard that that no longer happens, but until I see good evidence to confirm it, that's enough reason not to eat it. |
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Gorgias
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| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:40 am Post subject: |
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| Now that I've heard the stories about how they're killed I wouldn't eat it again. |
I want proof. |
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hack
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| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:20 am Post subject: |
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| Homer wrote: |
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| Exactly. Anyway now he knows that most people (according to the poll) feel that dog-eating should be acceptable in other countries. |
and this makes him angry because he was looking for a poll that would confirm his view that eating dogs is horrible and that by extension...Korea is horrible and that by extension he was all good and clearly from the "suprior" place...
One too many extensions based on a shoddy assumption. |
ROTFLMAO. What are you an armchair psychiatrist? This makes me mad? Are you serious? And then by extenson-----blah blah blah. Cmon homer I think Korea is horrible? You have just replaced the Urban Myth as the Dave's most excellent fantasy apologist. I didn't think it was possible but it's there in black and white for all to see. |
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pegpig
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| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| Dogmeat was 'banned' for the Seoul Olympics in 1988 - at the behest of all those lovely fat Americans who consume huge quantities of cows (not that the *beep* they eat contains much actual cow, but never mind) kept in dreadful conditions and treated appallingly - and the practice continues to this day with ������ visible everywhere. |
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About other species of animals not being systematically tortured to death, I think people just don't think about the cruelty inherent in many common farming practices. In the case of chickens raised for egg production, I don't think it's at all an exaggeration to say that they're tortured every day of their lives. A few years ago I saw video footage of an egg farm investigation in Australia and it was appalling. Some birds had escaped from their cages and fallen into pits of manure, where they were trapped and dying of dehydration or suffocation. Other investigations in the United States and Canada have revealed similar atrocities.
If you castrated your pet dog or cat without anaesthetics, you'd certainly be charged with cruelty. But that practice is routine in animal agriculture, along with other painful procedures like branding, dehorning, debeaking (of chickens) ... and on many egg farms in the U.S., farmers deprive birds of food for days (I forget exactly how long, but I think it may be up to a week). |
Maybe it's a month? Since you're pulling numbers out of your ass, why don't you just say a month?
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It doesn't happen right in front of us so we prefer not to think about it, but it doesn't mean that it's less appalling than what dogs go through. I say protect the dogs AND other animals, everywhere on the planet. |
I do agree all animals should be treated equally - humanely.
Have either of you ever actually been on a farm? I grew up on a farm and know exactly how full of shit you guys are. That's my proof.
Some birds had escaped? Are you for real. So, a handful of chickens escaped and ....shit happens. Is that the daily treatment of chickens then? They are ALL taken out to the back thrown into the shit to sweat it out for a few days? Good grief.
I've never eaten dog. It just doesn't look delicious. It's a greasy mess of a soup. |
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red dog
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Here's some information about "forced molting," the intentional withholding of food from egg-laying hens to shock their bodies into producing more eggs. Excuse me for not having it all memorized.
http://upc-online.org/molting/52703.htm
Here's what some investigations of U.S. chicken and egg farms have uncovered:
http://upc-online.org/spring03/egg.htm
http://satyamag.com/nov05/park.html
About the dogs, most people here at Dave's are teachers, not investigators. The Korea Animal Protection Society is a reliable source of information and their site is full of photos and eyewitness accounts.
Because someone mentioned pugs in a recent thread:
http://koreananimals.org/dogs_p10.htm
Oh yeah, thanks Rteacher, but really I'm not such a great thinker. Anyone who thinks at all would agree with what I'm saying here. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 1:42 am Post subject: |
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| hack wrote: |
| Homer wrote: |
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| Exactly. Anyway now he knows that most people (according to the poll) feel that dog-eating should be acceptable in other countries. |
and this makes him angry because he was looking for a poll that would confirm his view that eating dogs is horrible and that by extension...Korea is horrible and that by extension he was all good and clearly from the "suprior" place...
One too many extensions based on a shoddy assumption. |
ROTFLMAO. What are you an armchair psychiatrist? This makes me mad? Are you serious? And then by extenson-----blah blah blah. Cmon homer I think Korea is horrible? You have just replaced the Urban Myth as the Dave's most excellent fantasy apologist. I didn't think it was possible but it's there in black and white for all to see. |
(sniffs the air) Smells like some burgers are burning. Better hurry back there and flip them. And yes I want fries with that. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:42 am Post subject: |
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Remains a shoddy assumption hack.
Keep playing. |
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