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Kimchi: Staple or Delicacy

 
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weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:46 am    Post subject: Kimchi: Staple or Delicacy Reply with quote

Maybe I have been here too long when these things get to me, but when kimchi is called a delicacy, I twitch a bit. A delicacy is something expensive and more or less not an every day food enjoyed by all at every meal. To me kimchi is an everyday food enjoyed at every meal and by every one (almost). It is cheap in relation to other foods, and isn't that big of deal to make, contrary to belief. I say all this because this is the second time the Digital Chosun has done this:

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200602/200602030022.html
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Exports of Korea��s national delicacy kimchi have been in trouble since some Chinese brands were found infested with parasites last year.


don't worry, I will twist open a beer now
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peony



Joined: 30 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i agree its a staple food in korean cuisine. its just as much a part of the meal as rice is
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capebretoncanadian



Joined: 20 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they want to advertise it as such; Korea is able to qualify Kimchi as a delicacy if they so choose.
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pest2



Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:02 am    Post subject: Re: Kimchi: Staple or Delicacy Reply with quote

Ummmm no lets see.... no... I'd rather eat staples from my office stapler than that nasty Kimchi cr@pp!



weatherman wrote:
Maybe I have been here too long when these things get to me, but when kimchi is called a delicacy, I twitch a bit. A delicacy is something expensive and more or less not an every day food enjoyed by all at every meal. To me kimchi is an everyday food enjoyed at every meal and by every one (almost). It is cheap in relation to other foods, and isn't that big of deal to make, contrary to belief. I say all this because this is the second time the Digital Chosun has done this:

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200602/200602030022.html
Quote:
Exports of Korea��s national delicacy kimchi have been in trouble since some Chinese brands were found infested with parasites last year.


don't worry, I will twist open a beer now
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To other countries, it may be considered a delicacy.
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stumptown



Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Paju: Wife beating capital of Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rather than consider it either a delicacy or staple, I consider a fundamental component of national self identity. When asking students what did you eat for lunch I find that rice and kimchi are the two most common answers. Meaning either "rice" or "kimchi" are the responses I get.
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weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stumptown wrote:
what did you eat for lunch I find that rice and kimchi are the two most common answers. Meaning either "rice" or "kimchi" are the responses I get.


I agree, Kimchi is another ubiquitous word for meal. Hence that Kimchi is a staple and not a delicacy.


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I consider a fundamental component of national self identity.
That doesn't negate the staple or delicacy question.

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To other countries, it may be considered a delicacy.


I am talking about Korea, and most English newspapers in Korea, whether online or a broadsheet, are written and read by the locals.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Swiss James



Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't really know what a 'delicacy' is supposed to be- it conjures up images of eating caviar with an ivory spoon but is basically used whenever foreigners eat funny food.

On dictionary.com it says

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Something pleasing and appealing, especially a choice food.


Kimchi fits the bill for me.
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPINOZA wrote:


No worries mate, the subject isn't for everbody.

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I don't really know what a 'delicacy' is supposed to be- it conjures up images of eating caviar with an ivory spoon but is basically used whenever foreigners eat funny food.

On dictionary.com it says

Quote:
Something pleasing and appealing, especially a choice food.


Kimchi fits the bill for me.


There is something about eating it everyday and the generally low price that doesn't make it a delicacy. The word doesn't fit right.

JG: Nice staples.
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kangnam mafioso



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think koreans are just using the word "delicacy" in the wrong context, which happens a lot with non-native speakers. it's like when koreans say: let's go to this restaurant -- it's very famous. "famous" has the wrong connotation when you are speaking about a popular local restaurant.
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Old fat expat



Joined: 19 Sep 2005
Location: a caravan of dust, making for a windy prairie

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the West we eat cheese. Lots of cheese. Mmmmm. Cheese.

Is it a delicacy? My first response is no, although I could reason my way through to claiming certain cheeses are. But your every day velveta? I think not.

Or in Slovakia they eat sauerkraut. Lots of sauerkraut. Mmmmm. Sauerkraut.

There are many kinds of chimchi. I think most are staples, and some may be delicacies. I like chimchi but generally find nothing delicate about it.
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Reflections



Joined: 04 Jan 2005

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember when I first arrived in Gimpo some years ago, I asked the girl at the information desk at the airport, what is popular here for tourists. I was referring to like an activity.

But, she said to me, 'well you haven't heard of kimchi? (with a surprised look), its very famous'.

Selling your country with a rotten vegetable, cool.

Personally, I think the stuff stinks, uhh.... Kimchi was invented for a people who never got to benefit from the finer foods in life. Like cheeseee>

Oh, back to the topic, yeah staple for sure.

But I saw on CNN yesterday that it is becoming something of a delicacy in China. Or, I could be wrong.
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Cedar



Joined: 11 Mar 2003
Location: In front of my computer, again.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's both
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