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EFL LAW just became a paid to post site
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pegpig



Joined: 10 May 2005

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My last hogwan deducted the 79,000 won Dave's fee directly from my first paycheck. Very convenient and I'm good for 5 years.
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mishlert



Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: On the 3rd rock from the sun

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My last hogwan deducted the 79,000 won Dave's fee directly from my first paycheck

Now, that is one cheap boss.
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mishlert wrote:
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My last hogwan deducted the 79,000 won Dave's fee directly from my first paycheck

Now, that is one cheap boss.


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bellum99



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: don't need to know

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted a few jobs on here over the years. So I have personally paid Dave more than 500,000 won in total. But I am not going to pay EFL LAW just to post on their site. If they were my lawyer helping with a case, then of course but just to post a lame message, no way.

Earlier they used their site to make their name famous..now they are past that and want to make money. It makes me sick because I have personally directed business their way in the past because they seemed to care about helping...not just about the money. Any Korean lawyer with passable English could take over EFL law's business and I know a couple. I won't be directing business to EFL law anymore.
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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As much as I openly agree or heatedly disagree with them over there on different things, I would like to clarify that their decision was not profit-based. They all have day jobs and recognize that save for a dozen or so loyal posters, they know that what other traffic that they do get is usually just lurkers and readers who drop in, now and then, and are therefore not an easy sell for subscribing to the paid forums. A big reason why some stuff was moved to exclusive forums, was because of some legal heat they got over some things that were being said.

The free EFL Topics forum is still the default anything-goes forum for help and advice, and their mods are really starting to police that well to keep the riff-raff out. EFL-Law guy isn't on there as much as he used to, but the advice from people like Hogwan and Bozo Yoroshiku are some of the most cleanest, spot-on job advice on any ESL forums in this area of the net.
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bellum99



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will you be paying then? They accept cash, Paypal and credit cards. Feel free to pay as often as you like (which will be never). Say it honestly, you don't like it either.
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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only post in EFL Topics anyways, so its no skin off my back. I'm usually fairly skeptical of any new idea that gets brought up there, as there is a long historical line of a lack of follow-thru, ie., project 500; the initiative to get govt funding of a new help center; the crusade to force ESL sites to regulate their job posting criteria(which imploded as quickly as it took WorknPlay to send a stern reply),; the plan to start a new organization to rival KOTESOL; and a handful of others that I can't recall specifics, but remember the diehard supporters saying the obligatory 'look out world, here we come!' type of chatter, and then that's the last anyone hears of anything on that topic.

If this latest initiative lasts 6 months and it accomplishs what it was set out to do, then I'll probably fork over the money then. But, as I say, its really hard to find the convincing history that gives me the confidence to entrust that that site will know what to do with the money that I give it.
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