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pegpig

Joined: 10 May 2005
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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My last hogwan deducted the 79,000 won Dave's fee directly from my first paycheck. Very convenient and I'm good for 5 years. |
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mishlert

Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Location: On the 3rd rock from the sun
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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My last hogwan deducted the 79,000 won Dave's fee directly from my first paycheck |
Now, that is one cheap boss. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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mishlert wrote: |
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My last hogwan deducted the 79,000 won Dave's fee directly from my first paycheck |
Now, that is one cheap boss. |
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bellum99

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: don't need to know
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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I posted a few jobs on here over the years. So I have personally paid Dave more than 500,000 won in total. But I am not going to pay EFL LAW just to post on their site. If they were my lawyer helping with a case, then of course but just to post a lame message, no way.
Earlier they used their site to make their name famous..now they are past that and want to make money. It makes me sick because I have personally directed business their way in the past because they seemed to care about helping...not just about the money. Any Korean lawyer with passable English could take over EFL law's business and I know a couple. I won't be directing business to EFL law anymore. |
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chronicpride

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:07 am Post subject: |
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As much as I openly agree or heatedly disagree with them over there on different things, I would like to clarify that their decision was not profit-based. They all have day jobs and recognize that save for a dozen or so loyal posters, they know that what other traffic that they do get is usually just lurkers and readers who drop in, now and then, and are therefore not an easy sell for subscribing to the paid forums. A big reason why some stuff was moved to exclusive forums, was because of some legal heat they got over some things that were being said.
The free EFL Topics forum is still the default anything-goes forum for help and advice, and their mods are really starting to police that well to keep the riff-raff out. EFL-Law guy isn't on there as much as he used to, but the advice from people like Hogwan and Bozo Yoroshiku are some of the most cleanest, spot-on job advice on any ESL forums in this area of the net. |
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bellum99

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: don't need to know
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 7:14 am Post subject: |
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Will you be paying then? They accept cash, Paypal and credit cards. Feel free to pay as often as you like (which will be never). Say it honestly, you don't like it either. |
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chronicpride

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 7:42 am Post subject: |
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I only post in EFL Topics anyways, so its no skin off my back. I'm usually fairly skeptical of any new idea that gets brought up there, as there is a long historical line of a lack of follow-thru, ie., project 500; the initiative to get govt funding of a new help center; the crusade to force ESL sites to regulate their job posting criteria(which imploded as quickly as it took WorknPlay to send a stern reply),; the plan to start a new organization to rival KOTESOL; and a handful of others that I can't recall specifics, but remember the diehard supporters saying the obligatory 'look out world, here we come!' type of chatter, and then that's the last anyone hears of anything on that topic.
If this latest initiative lasts 6 months and it accomplishs what it was set out to do, then I'll probably fork over the money then. But, as I say, its really hard to find the convincing history that gives me the confidence to entrust that that site will know what to do with the money that I give it. |
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