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Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:16 pm Post subject: Latin Americans' "Nothing Gringo" MayDay Boycott

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MEXICO CITY, Mexico (AP) -- U.S. lobbyists lashed out Wednesday at the Mexican "Nothing Gringo" campaign timed for May 1 to coincide with the "Day Without Immigrants" boycott in the United States.

The American Chamber of Commerce in Mexico said organizers are risking a backlash and foolishly targeting some of their best allies, since U.S. corporations have actively lobbied the U.S. Congress for immigration reform including legalization for many of the estimated 11 million undocumented migrants.

Mexicans' refusal to "buy American" on May 1 could further polarize the debate and make reform supporters seem anti-American at the very moment that lobbyists are trying to persuade lawmakers in Washington to pass a bill that would benefit migrants, worries Larry Rubin, the chamber's president.

"This is like shooting oneself in the foot," Rubin said. "U.S. companies have been the first to lobby, launching a huge lobbying effort for immigration reform. ... Why hurt something that is helping you?"

Migrants and their supporters in the United States are being encouraged to skip work and school and not spend money for one day to demonstrate the migrants' importance to the U.S. economy.

South of the border, Mexicans are targeting American stores and chain restaurants -- "That means no Dunkin' Donuts, no McDonald's, Burger King, Starbucks, Sears, Krispy Kreme or Wal-Mart," reads one e-mail making the rounds.

But even activists are confused about which companies are U.S.-owned. Sears is cited by boycott organizers, despite the fact that Sears' Mexico stores were bought by Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim in 1997. And few organizers mention Vips -- the chain of ubiquitous Mexican diners -- even though they are owned by Wal-Mart Stores Inc.

A quarter of Mexico's formal private-sector jobs with regular pay are provided by U.S. firms, according to the chamber, including Walmex, the Mexican Wal-Mart subsidiary that is the nation's biggest private employer with 140,000 workers. Delphi Corp., the U.S. auto parts maker, is second with 70,000 workers.

"Certainly, companies could be hurt," Rubin said at a news conference Wednesday.

The chamber represents more than 2,000 American and other foreign companies doing business in Mexico, and says its members are responsible for $100 billion of investment in the country.

The companies say they're helping Mexico by providing jobs, but activists counter they pay so little that Mexicans have little choice but to head north.

Backers of the Mexican boycott insisted Wednesday that the protest could send a message that American companies should offer better pay and benefits to their Mexican workers.

"They continue to exploit Mexicans with badly paid jobs and no labor rights," said Roberto Vigil, who works in the Mexico City office of the California-based immigrants rights group Hermandad Mexicana. "They're kind of two-faced: they support, but they exploit."

Unskilled workers at U.S. companies usually start with Mexico's minimum wage of $4.35 a day. While many earn more, such as seamstresses making an average of $5.89 a day -- even these wages pale in comparison to paychecks offered by the same companies north of the border, conceded the chamber's Humberto Banuelos.

A cashier at Subway (or "sandwich artist," as the company refers to them) earns about $189 a month in Mexico City. In Colorado, Subway cashiers make four times that -- $824.

Companies also often hire workers for three-month periods to avoid paying health insurance or other benefits, activists say.

"Yes, we are aware that they are the largest employers in the Mexican republic, but they are paying crumbs," said Martha Suarez Cantu, coordinator of Alianza Braceroproa, a Mexican labor-rights group helping organize the boycott.

The only way to stem immigration is to narrow the income gap between the two countries, said Robert Pastor, director of the Center for North American Studies at American University in Washington. He pointed to the European Union, where migration slowed after heavy investment reduced the income gap in its poorer countries.

Washington does not invest directly in job creation in Mexico. The U.S. Agency for International Development gave Mexico $31 million last year, but it went toward scholarships, tuberculosis, AIDS prevention and advice to lending institutions.

But raising wages would cause Mexico to lose ground to countries with cheaper labor, such as China and India. Felix Boni, director of equity research at Scotiabank's Mexican brokerage firm, suggested boosting Mexico's productivity and job growth.

"U.S. aid is not going to do it," Boni said. "It doesn't make sense to pour money into something that's broken. Mexico needs to make structural changes."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas/04/26/mexico.america.ap/index.html

Yo!Chingo

Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: Seoul Korea

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:01 am Post subject:

I read on MSN that the whole concept is backfiring on them, and alot of people seeing these speeches and rallys on TV are joining the minutemen group in response. What used to look like other people's problems is suddenly alot closer to home for many Americans. These illegals aren't even smart enough to realise that the company's they're boycotting are the idiots trying to get them the right to stay!

igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:14 pm Post subject:

May 1st is the founding of the Illuminati. All just a coincidence of course

CoolTeach

Joined: 19 Apr 2006
Location: Back in the USSR

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:32 pm Post subject: Better pay and benefits.

gfd Last edited by CoolTeach on Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:34 am; edited 1 time in total

mindmetoo

Joined: 02 Feb 2004

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:30 pm Post subject:

Yo!Chingo wrote:

I read on MSN that the whole concept is backfiring on them, and a lot of people seeing these speeches and rallies on TV are joining the minutemen group in response. What used to look like other people's problems is suddenly a lot closer to home for many Americans.
These illegals aren't even smart enough to realise that the company's they're boycotting are the idiots trying to get them the right to stay!

Yeah it seems like a bad move.

But this from Bush makes my blood boil:

http://www.cbc.ca/story/arts/national/2006/04/28/anthem-spanish-bush.html

No singing the national anthem in Spanish? WTF? Did freedom of speech just go out the window? Some British music producer does a version in Spanish and this warrants a second of the precious grey matter of the "shouldn't I be keeping America safe" president?

Leslie Cheswyck

Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:10 pm Post subject:

I thought it already was sung in Spanish. Jose, can you see...? I think GW was merely offering his personal opinion, which I tend to share. On the other hand, maybe they ought to record the song in every known language on Earth. I bet it would sound real cool in Klingon.

Yo!Chingo

Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: Seoul Korea

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:34 pm Post subject:

Leslie Cheswyck wrote:

On the other hand, maybe they ought to record the song in every known language on Earth. I bet it would sound real cool in Klingon.

On Earth, Leslie Cheswyck, on Earth!

cazador83

Joined: 28 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:32 am Post subject:

mindmetoo wrote:

Yo!Chingo wrote:

he didnt say nobody COULDNT, he just said he thinks it should be in english, since thats what we speak in america you know (and yes i know its not an official language). but what really pisses me off is that they didnt just translate it into Spanish, they totally added their own propanda into the song!

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TheUrbanMyth

Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:37 am Post subject:

mindmetoo wrote:

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But this from Bush makes my blood boil:

http://www.cbc.ca/story/arts/national/2006/04/28/anthem-spanish-bush.html

(1) No singing the national anthem in Spanish? WTF? (2) Did freedom of speech just go out the window? Some British music producer does a version in Spanish and this warrants a second of the precious grey matter of the "shouldn't I be keeping America safe" president?

1. Bush didn't say that.

2. Hello? How does a president offering his opinion infringe someone's freedom of speech?

Ya-ta Boy

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:45 am Post subject:

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and yes i know its an official language

Actually, no it isn't. The US doesn't have an official language. I think some of the states have tried making it an official language, though.

About the song. Since the lyrics were changed, it isn't really the national anthem anyway. It becomes a piece of protest literature. Fair enough.

If it's the real national anthem, and it's sung in Spanish, fine. I have no problem with it. Just like I had no problem with Jimi Hendrix's electrified version.

We're in the 21st Century now. Too bad xenophobia is still alive and well. I was hoping for better things in the new century. [/quote]

Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:24 pm Post subject:

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Ya-ta Boy

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:57 pm Post subject:

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Ya-ta: they are -- they claim they are -- immigrating to the U.S., to build a life here. They still make quasi-racist distinctions between us and them by calling us "gingos," as in "gingo go home!," however, and we are xenophobic or racist because some of us are concerned about their inability and unwillingness to communicate in English? Because of their in-your-face Mexican flag-waving, subversion of the national anthem to suit their political purposes, and antigringo protests and economic attacks?

Aren't you failing to make a distinction between loud-mouthed hot heads and all the rest? I don't think I've ever claimed anywhere that Americans have a monopoly on xenophobia. Because I would resent it if someone said David Duke is a true representative of average Americans' views, I don't choose to believe that radicals are the representatives of the average Hispanic views.

Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:06 pm Post subject:

Ya-ta Boy wrote:

Aren't you failing to make a distinction...?

Possibly.

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Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:29 pm Post subject:

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Organizers are predicting an unprecedented turnout for Monday's rallies against a proposed crackdown on illegal immigration and a widespread boycott of jobs, schools and businesses meant to show the economic power of immigrants...

Sen. Trent Lott warned Sunday that the planned demonstrations could undercut senators trying to find a middle ground.

"I do think that these big demonstrations are counterproductive, and they hurt with a guy like me, who is trying to look at this in a way that is responsible," the Mississippi Republican told CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer."

Even some of those who supported the earlier protests have called for caution in Monday's rallies...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/04/30/immigrant.day/index.html

cazador83

Joined: 28 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:40 pm Post subject:

Ya-ta Boy wrote:

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and yes i know its an official language

[/quote]
sorry, i actually meant to say that English is NOT an official language. you can probably tell by the way i was saying it, but yeah i made a typo.

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