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Am I too racially sensitive?
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Zenpickle



Joined: 06 Jan 2004
Location: Anyang -- Bisan

PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 5:58 am    Post subject: Am I too racially sensitive? Reply with quote

Would these make you cringe? The first is a project for our classes from an arts and crafts company.


The other is a recent homework assignment from a student. I asked her what she meant to write, and she quickly erased it. I'm hoping she meant to write something different than what I'm seeing.
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identity



Joined: 22 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep, koreans are racists.
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OCOKA Dude



Joined: 04 Oct 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

identity wrote:
yep, koreans are racists.


And as if the rest of the world isn't, right? So what's new?
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Lemonade



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OCOKA Dude wrote:
identity wrote:
yep, koreans are racists.


And as if the rest of the world isn't, right? So what's new?


If a student wrote that in a public school in America there would be serious consequences for that student - in the vast majority of public schools anyway.

OCOKA Dude, your attitude needs some serious improvement!
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Homer
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats just racist.

Is it widespread here...thats another debate.
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Rum Jungle



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: North Asia

PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Lemonade"]
OCOKA Dude wrote:
identity wrote:
yep, koreans are racists.


And as if the rest of the world isn't, right? So what's new?


If a student wrote that in a public school in America there would be serious consequences for that student - in the vast majority of public schools anyway.

What do you mean "serious consequences"? The student would be questioned by police?
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He would be told "What you wrote was insensitive to others and hurt peoples feelings. You go home and think about that".

Then he would get home and the parents would call the school and raise hell because their kid got sent home for using freedom of speech.


Laughing
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Lemonade



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer wrote:
He would be told "What you wrote was insensitive to others and hurt peoples feelings. You go home and think about that".

Then he would get home and the parents would call the school and raise hell because their kid got sent home for using freedom of speech.


Laughing


You must be speaking from experience here. Some parents should not have children.
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Satori



Joined: 09 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

identity wrote:
yep, koreans are racists.

That's not what he suggested or what he asked. He asked "Am I too racially sensitive?". If there's any implication behind the question it's "Is this kid racist?", not "Are Koreans racists".
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billybrobby



Joined: 09 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a racing game that's been heavily advertised in Korea which is a rip-off of Kart Rider (which in turn is a rip-off of Mario Kart, but I digress). In the game there is a black character as shown below. There's actually another black character which wears a half-eaten watermelon on his head. Is it racist? Well, in the picture you can see the hitler-haircut arayan youth behind him as well as the slit-eyed, panda suit-wearing 'chinaman.' So at least there is equal-opportunity racism going around.

Frankly, I don't know what to make of it. But I know that this kind of thing would not fly in America, as far as the representation of black people goes. You probably could get away with representing asian people that way, because, after all, America is pretty ignorant about Asian people. And I guess that's what it comes down to. Ignorance.

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Paddycakes



Joined: 05 May 2003
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if a lot of Korea's anti-black racism is really their way of projecting their self-hatred on to someone else...

After all, underneath the 2 inches of white make-up, Koreans can be very dark skinned themselves...

So next time little Joon makes fun of blacks, be sure to bring a mirror to class and hold it in front of his face to remind him that he is really no different...
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Satori



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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

billybrobby wrote:
You probably could get away with representing asian people that way, because, after all, America is pretty ignorant about Asian people.

Not really, seeing as the first major wave of asian immigration to america was over 200 years ago, I wouldn't say americans as nearly as ignorant of asians as Koreans are of black americans. Nor do I think that kind of characterisation, if applied to asians, in america, would be tolerated for a minute. Unless of course, you can find an equivilant and current image from the states, you're fishing with that one.
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Hater Depot



Joined: 29 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my experience, Koreans will freely admit that they are scared of black people. Americans often have a lot of strange ideas themselves but are relatively inhibited about voicing them.

And you can argue that for most Koreans it is just simple ignorance and not real racial malice. But whoever designs this racist stuff in Korea knows exactly what they are doing -- look at how exactly they copy the same stuff that Americans came up with. There's no way they could do that much research into a foreign culture without also finding out how hurtful it is.
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JongnoGuru



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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Satori wrote:
billybrobby wrote:
You probably could get away with representing asian people that way, because, after all, America is pretty ignorant about Asian people.

Not really, seeing as the first major wave of asian immigration to america was over 200 years ago, I wouldn't say americans as nearly as ignorant of asians as Koreans are of black americans. Nor do I think that kind of characterisation, if applied to asians, in america, would be tolerated for a minute. Unless of course, you can find an equivilant and current image from the states, you're fishing with that one.

Asians were emigrating to America in the 1700s? You mean way back when it was just those ex-colonies on the eastern seaboard and everything to the west was virgin wilderness?


Overall, I find Korea's relative absence of moral policing on these issues rather refreshing. It not only makes for some highly diverting ads & attitudes on the part of the locals, but also some damn funny backflips by Western expats. Not the k-bashers, but the 'even-handed' relativists, the huggers and the self-proclaimed middle-roaders. Those silly sh*ts are more entertaining than circus clowns.


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Hater Depot



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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There were a number of Japanese in the northern colonies. Back home I have a book about this, the title of which escapes me.
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