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Transcript update. Official word from Immigration.
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Horangi Munshin



Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

harryh wrote:
Kwangjuchicken wrote:
This is getting out of control. More and more ads on the Korean job list say all on the short list need to bring sealed transcripts to the interview. And, then at a later date, they will tell who got the job. So, this is not just am immigration thing, but also the schools. But, here is what really gets me. If I go to an interview with sealed transcripts, then it must mean they are going to break the seal. So, then that means I can not use those for another job nor a visa renewal. Mad Twisted Evil

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I'd tell them they can't open the transcripts at the interview.

I thought immigration only, requested sealed transcripts?

Do we need transcripts if we intend to stay another year at the same school, i.e visa extension?


I don't think you need them for renewing, but then again....

A friend of mine renewed for that reason actually, it would've taken too long to get them from his university.
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harryh



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: south of Seoul

PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Horangi Munshin wrote:
harryh wrote:
Kwangjuchicken wrote:
This is getting out of control. More and more ads on the Korean job list say all on the short list need to bring sealed transcripts to the interview. And, then at a later date, they will tell who got the job. So, this is not just am immigration thing, but also the schools. But, here is what really gets me. If I go to an interview with sealed transcripts, then it must mean they are going to break the seal. So, then that means I can not use those for another job nor a visa renewal. Mad Twisted Evil

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I'd tell them they can't open the transcripts at the interview.

I thought immigration only, requested sealed transcripts?

Do we need transcripts if we intend to stay another year at the same school, i.e visa extension?


I don't think you need them for renewing, but then again....

A friend of mine renewed for that reason actually, it would've taken too long to get them from his university.


Part of the reason for me too, also not wanting to move again. After four years, I'm a little jaded with the VISA application process each time. The hassle and time spent changing jobs.........
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Chinaski



Joined: 13 May 2006

PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This transcript thing's stupid, because as someone said before 'different universities have different systems', which leads to my question...

I was never given a transcipt in a sealed envelope. My offical transcipt has the uni stamp on it and is signed, and is lamenated (so its sealed). Do you guys think this will be ok?
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Aussiekimchi



Joined: 21 Apr 2006
Location: SYDNEY

PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This transcript thing's stupid, because as someone said before 'different universities have different systems', which leads to my question...

I was never given a transcipt in a sealed envelope. My offical transcipt has the uni stamp on it and is signed, and is lamenated (so its sealed). Do you guys think this will be ok?


nope.
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Pak Yu Man



Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: The Ida galaxy

PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer wrote:
Pehaps k-chicken but the transcripts request is a measure intent on weeding out people with fake degrees. I think we can agree that this is a reasonable step for immigration no?


So if someone buys a fake degree, why can't they buy fake sealed transcripts? What's stopping that? With all the extra paper work involved I wouldn't be surprised if immigration workers were still doing things half-asses and just stamping whatever was placed in front of them.

Thank God for the F-2.
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lastat06513



Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian

PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I surely remember the embarrassing 3-year degree disqualifying rule that immigrations put in place in 2000-2001.

This knocked alot if Brits, Aussies, and Kiwis out of the job market for a while until the Kiwi Prime Minister came and persuaded the Korean government to end that god-awful rule.

I think that if someone contacted their government and complained about the invasion of privacy and the hassles they are getting from this (and I bet there are alot of legitimate teachers getting hassles from this), then the rule might change. Or if a representative from a very prestigious university with contacts with the South Korean government (such as Yale, Harvard or Oxford) and complain that their alumni are having difficulties getting a visa, then things might change.

I think that checking people is not the responsibility of the government, it is the responsibility of the schools. And I honestly think that if the schools were more regulated and managed more responsibly, then things wouldn't have gotten out of hand the way it did.
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shoeboy



Joined: 23 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Transcript update. Official word from Immigration. Reply with quote

Aussiekimchi wrote:
Transcripts procedure.

I have finally been told that these horrible bits of useless paper need to be :
* original
* in a sealed university envelope
* have a stamp or sticker on the back
* have some sort of signature over the seal

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You don't need a stamp or sticker or have a signature over seal. Just got a job without either this week.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well that depends on the mood/hair style/anal retention quotient of the individual immigration officer you are dealing with. Laughing
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Aussiekimchi



Joined: 21 Apr 2006
Location: SYDNEY

PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well that depends on the mood/hair style/anal retention quotient of the individual immigration officer you are dealing with.

Exactly.
Why risk getting Mr. Yoo R. Pakt in a bad mood coz his wife doesn't understand him being at the room salon all night is considered business. Therefore he rejects your papers.

Do it and you are 100% safe...don't do it and you run the risk.
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Gideon



Joined: 24 Feb 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

whats with formality when one place tells u one thing and the other tells you something different.

I've called immigration numerous times for things and one day they tell me its ok and the next its not ok..

example of this kind of incompetency

i was at KB bank a few weeks ago and tried to wire transfer money out of the country.. anyway the bank person tells me they can't allow me to send money out of the country because i have another bank account with CHB, and that i must close that account first. I thought this was really stupid so when asked why he told me its "a new policy". Unfortunately for him, he could speak english so i gave him a mouthful of what i thought about the banks policy and that my friend who works for the same uni i work at also has a CHB account was allowed to wire transfer money at the other KB bank down the road.

In the absence of losing face.. because he really didnt want to lose face and admit that hes wrong. He stood his ground and told me that he knows his job and thats "our" policy. I told him i dont think he knows what hes doing and that he just doesnt want to admit he may not be 100% sure. I told him that i will goto the other KB bank to wire the money home and once its done i'll come back to confirm that infact he doesnt know what hes talking about and that its not the banks policy, rather he just used "policy" as an excuse for not losing face.

Well, sure enough i was in the bank today and i explained to him, the other KB bank down the road has NO policy where i have to close my CHB account. I was clear to mention that hes made the mistake and that he didnt really know what to do.. considering it took him over 2 hours at the bank to figure out the process of wire transferring.. In the end he admitted he may have made some error.. for gods sake why not just say "sorry sir, i dont really know or I can't help you at this momement, but if you come back tomorrow i'll try to have this cleared up".. instead its just no no no.. i must not lose face, i cant show weakness..

btw.. i submitted all the necessary documents required by KB bank when i opened the account 3 months ago.

But then again, CHB bank told me last year they are no longer issuing cards with cirrus for international banking i.e. withdrawals... NOT TRUE.. I believe banks in korea have their own policies and they dont seem to be on the same page..

sorry about the rant.. i just cant stand incompetency from people who are appointed positions where they should know what they are talking about.. if u dont know just say so!!
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