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Cheonmunka
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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 Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:14 am Post subject: Priced out of an apple pie |
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Re: Queenstown bakery.
I tried to get logged in to the site and somehow my account has been forgotten. On applying again I can't get logged in. Further than this though is the new price for an apple pie and a NY cheesecake. I don't understand why the price over six months just jumped 100 % to 40.000 won for an apple pie. Even with a generous discount like the bakery gave in the past (Christmas time) that would (still) be 30K for each. A total order of 90.000 won but six months ago 50-55.000 won.
Hungry for yummy food yet sadly kept hungry.
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:00 am Post subject: |
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| It'd be a cold day in hell before I'd pay $20 for an apple pie. $40? Forget about it. I'll go pour sugar in my mouth and take a swig of apple juice instead. |
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ajuma
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:31 am Post subject: |
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| Geez! For those prices, wouldn't you be better off just buying an oven and making your own? Then you could have your treats whenever you want them! |
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Corporal
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:32 am Post subject: |
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| Which is what I said in the beginning, but people got annoyed that we don't all defend and uphold the foreign business community, or something. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| Heck, I'd bake you an apple pie for 30,000. Or at least let you use my oven for 10,000. |
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Cheonmunka
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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Don't get me wrong, the original price with the discount was too cheap.
I could easily handle paying 20% more.
But now my wife won't let me order because it's just too high.
Anyway, I'm sure the business will succeed because many Korean people can pay any amounts for luxury. |
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ilovebdt
Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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I suggest you PM Perwinkle direct before you start slagging her off.
ilovebdt |
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Cheonmunka
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:21 am Post subject: |
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The post was addressed to Queenstown bakery.
Was expressing disappointment about prices and logging in. There were also compliments. There were no names nor things personal. |
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teachingld2004
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:11 am Post subject: apple pie |
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Join Costco for 30,000 won.
Then buy an Apple Pie for 10,000 won. |
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periwinkle
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Under my signature, I had a little ad that said 35% off and free delivery for dave's users. I took down the signature ('cuz nobody reads sigs), and just assumed everyone knew this is a permanent offer. Anyway, hubby increased the prices because he wanted to cut down on some business 'cuz I feel like crap these days. Anyway, I'm getting better. OP-I've sent you a PM regarding prices^^.
Anyway, you can't compare my on-line bakey to Costco. Costco doesn't deliver; Costco doesn't make specialty orders; and they don't use the quality ingredients I use (all natural, at that- I don't use canned pumpkin, for example- it's pureed, after I bake a pumpkin for an awhile- Costco most likely doesn't do that- I don't know for sure, as I've never inquired with the Costco staff). Not everyone lives near a Costco, either. Apples and oranges. Anyway, people seem quite pleased with my bakery items. *Most importantly, Costco doesn't have their grubby little hands on my killer recipes  *
I'm sorry if you guys are having problems with the website- I'll mention it to my husband. Most of my customers just pm me here on dave's (I'm on dave's every day, Mon.- Fri.!). You can e-mail me, too, through dave's. If 35% off is still too steep, I'm willing to negotiate! ^^ |
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periwinkle
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Qinella wrote: |
| It'd be a cold day in hell before I'd pay $20 for an apple pie. $40? Forget about it. I'll go pour sugar in my mouth and take a swig of apple juice instead. |
20,000 for a pie is reasonable. A bag of apples (you need about 7 or 8 for a deep dish apple pie) will run at least 6000 won. Butter is almost 4000 won, I believe. Flour, cinnamon, sugar, etc. is still pretty cheap, but add in another 2000 won for the other ingredients. Therefore, ingredients alone are about 12,000 won. Rolling out the dough, slicing apples, baking, washing dishes, etc. is another 2 hours of labor (at the very, very, very least). The delivery company charges 3000 won for a pick-up. If I deliver it myself, subway is at least 2000 won there and back. That comes to a grand profit of MAYBE 5000 won for a pie that is priced at 20,000 won.
I do this as a hobby, and I'm targeting a niche market in Korea. Again, not to alienate expats, I'm offering discounts and negotiable prices. Looks like I'll have to contact Chiaa and drop off some samples for him to offer at his store just to win over some of you hard sells! ^~ Then again, Chiaa might not like crumbs all over his store...
Yes, some things are exorbitantly priced (the bread, for example). Because the profit margin is so low, my husband really doesn't want me to get many orders (he thinks I'm a workaholic and wants me to chill some), so he's inflated the prices. He thinks it's not worth it. That's the reason for the jacked up prices, and my reason, again, for the discounts... |
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crazylemongirl
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...
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| Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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I have ordered stuff from Perwinkle in the past and have been very happy with her work. It didn't cost that much more for one peri's cakes than at the local bakery but her's are so much better. Shoot her a PM on Daves, and see what you get.
I'm happy to keep supporting her and hope she can open a real bakery when the time is right. |
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periwinkle
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| crazylemongirl wrote: |
I have ordered stuff from Perwinkle in the past and have been very happy with her work. It didn't cost that much more for one peri's cakes than at the local bakery but her's are so much better. Shoot her a PM on Daves, and see what you get.
I'm happy to keep supporting her and hope she can open a real bakery when the time is right. |
Thanks, girl! I would like to have a bakery, too, but the profit margin is so low that my husband is completely against it. Itaewonguy tried to open a bakery in Itaewon. I don't remember why that didn't come to fruition... Actually, I'm going off-line in January- my husband is selling-off all his merchandise, and when he's done, or the server subscription runs out, that's it! He's sick of Uggs, and I'm just borrowing his bandwidth as it is...
Re: Corporal. Can you buy custom made wedding cakes at Costco, or wedding cakes, in general? 'Cuz I do wedding cakes, too. Does Costco sell chocolate chunk orange scones? How about frosted walnut brownies? Sure- you can get them at Starbucks, but if you're buying in bulk, I'm cheaper than Starbucks. Can you get custom made items at Costco? You know, give them your mother's recipe for baklava or apple crisp? How about at Paris baguette down the street? As for almond items (marzipan, etc.), good luck finding it in a Costco or Paris Baguette.
Arrrrgh- I'm so not trying to compete with Costco. 
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Corporal
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| periwinkle wrote: |
| crazylemongirl wrote: |
I have ordered stuff from Perwinkle in the past and have been very happy with her work. It didn't cost that much more for one peri's cakes than at the local bakery but her's are so much better. Shoot her a PM on Daves, and see what you get.
I'm happy to keep supporting her and hope she can open a real bakery when the time is right. |
Thanks, girl!
Re: Corporal. Can you buy custom made wedding cakes at Costco, or wedding cakes, in general? 'Cuz I do wedding cakes, too. Does Costco sell chocolate chunk orange scones? How about frosted walnut brownies? Sure- you can get them at Starbucks, but if you're buying in bulk, I'm cheaper than Starbucks. Can you get custom made items at Costco? You know, give them your mother's recipe for baklava or apple crisp? How about at Paris baguette down the street? As for almond items (marzipan, etc.), good luck finding it in a Costco or Paris Baguette.
Arrrrgh- I'm so not trying to compete with Costco. |
When did I say anything about Costco in this thread? Re-read my post.
What is it with "business" owners in this country not knowing how to be professional? |
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periwinkle
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Corporal wrote: |
| periwinkle wrote: |
| crazylemongirl wrote: |
I have ordered stuff from Perwinkle in the past and have been very happy with her work. It didn't cost that much more for one peri's cakes than at the local bakery but her's are so much better. Shoot her a PM on Daves, and see what you get.
I'm happy to keep supporting her and hope she can open a real bakery when the time is right. |
Thanks, girl!
Re: Corporal. Can you buy custom made wedding cakes at Costco, or wedding cakes, in general? 'Cuz I do wedding cakes, too. Does Costco sell chocolate chunk orange scones? How about frosted walnut brownies? Sure- you can get them at Starbucks, but if you're buying in bulk, I'm cheaper than Starbucks. Can you get custom made items at Costco? You know, give them your mother's recipe for baklava or apple crisp? How about at Paris baguette down the street? As for almond items (marzipan, etc.), good luck finding it in a Costco or Paris Baguette.
Arrrrgh- I'm so not trying to compete with Costco. |
When did I say anything about Costco in this thread? Re-read my post.
What is it with "business" owners in this country not knowing how to be professional? |
You didn't- you were alluding to what you said back in the fall, and what you said a long time was a comparison between myself and Costco. You've slammed me and my husband's business in the past (even though you've never ordered anything). Your point came across, though, and I was trying to make you understand my target market. If I was completely off-base, though, and you do understand the difference between what I do vs. what all the other corner bakery shops do, than I apologize.
Regarding my business ethics, if you're a customer, that's one thing. Posters on this board who slam my business will get the same treatment
as they do if they slam me on another thread. You'll never buy anything anyway, so why should I care?
Lunchtime!~ |
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