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mithridates

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laogaiguk

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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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flakfizer

Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| There is only one way to get rid of diving: make it so it is not worthwhile. The penalty kick in soccer is a joke. You get to take your time and kick the ball from a spot that is well within the "area" and nicely centered. Why not dive when you get in the area if you are rewarded with a shot that is much, much easier than the one you were [possibly] going to take? In basketball, people (except in a bonus situation where several team fouls have accumulated) don't get to shoot a foul shot unless you were actually in the act of shooting. Most shooting fouls actually take place closer to the basket than the 15 foot foul line. So it's really better to try and make the shot than fake getting fouled. Soccer rewards people for not trying to shoot, but for falling down in an "area" the size of Central Park. Diving only makes sense in this situation. Also, I find it odd that another player can take the penalty kick other than the one who was fouled. More reason to dive. In hockey, you could watch dozens of games and not ever see a penalty shot. That's because they don't award penalty shots unless it is determined that the player was on a legit break-away and would have had the equivalent of a penalty shot during normal play. Can you imagine if they gave penalty shots for any hooking or interference fouls committed against skaters within 6 meters of the opposition's goalie crease? Hockey players would start flopping around too. When you gain more from a penalty than you do you from normal play, it just makes sense to play for penalties. |
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pegpig

Joined: 10 May 2005
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| And for the record, a headbutt is delivered to the head. |
So, if someone kicks someone in the head, that's a headbutt? You've never heard of someone headbutting a table or the wall. My buddy headbutted a bbq one time. After we pulled him out of the bbq pit he went and tried to eat the picnic table. He was awfully tired after that. It might have been the booze. |
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seoulsucker

Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| pegpig wrote: |
| seoulsucker wrote: |
| And for the record, a headbutt is delivered to the head. |
So, if someone kicks someone in the head, that's a headbutt? You've never heard of someone headbutting a table or the wall. My buddy headbutted a bbq one time. After we pulled him out of the bbq pit he went and tried to eat the picnic table. He was awfully tired after that. It might have been the booze. |
How about you headbutt my fist? That should settle the dispute. [wimp lo]Face to foot style, how'dya like it?[/wimp lo]
No, seriously. I think a headbutt in terms of a person-to-person (or animal) attack is/should be defined as a blow from the neck up, to the neck up.
Inanimate objects are not subject to this rule. My old next door neighbor's mailbox can attest to this. It had more season tackles in street football than any other player on my block. |
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Delirium's Brother

Joined: 08 May 2006 Location: Out in that field with Rumi, waiting for you to join us!
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Down for one out for ten, should be the rule. And it they need a stretcher, you're out for the game.
I want to like soccer but the theatrics are too much for me. The Ukrainian stretcher bearers get more field time than the fullbacks. |
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poker player

Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Location: On the river
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Junior

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: the eye
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:33 am Post subject: Re: Headbutt? That ain't no stinking headbutt |
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What a joke. Here's the infamous headbutt. He looks like he's bowing to the guy-no power at all.
Now compare that to a REAL headbutt from a REAL football game. Look at the angle of the buttee's head. He probably just jumped up like a real man and shook it off.
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A real headbutt involves a head, not a safety crash helmet. Why would a "real man" cover himself in protective pads?
if its just violence that qualifies a sport as great, why not simply watch boxing..
Ever heard of rugby? They actually do all that violent stuff without any protective gear. They also have to have greater stamina because they don't get pulled off the field and replaced with a whole new team every 5 minutes. |
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otis

Joined: 02 Jun 2006
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:44 am Post subject: |
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Let's set the record straight.
Imagine it's the Superbowl. The Panthers and Patriots are playing. The Patriots are down by 2.
The Pats have the ball late in the fourth quarter. Brady is driving them steadily down the field.
Then Brady has a meltdown. He takes off his helmet and hits Brentson Buckner over the head with it.
He's ejected and the Patriots lose.
It's the same thing.
The guy showed no Grace Under Pressure. I don't care what kind of insults they were hurling at him. |
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poker player

Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Location: On the river
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:35 am Post subject: |
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| Ever heard of rugby? They actually do all that violent stuff without any protective gear. |
ROTFLMAO I've played both have you? No way they hit as hard in rugby as football and I love rugby but the hitting is done totally differently. |
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Junior

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: the eye
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:10 am Post subject: |
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ROTFLMAO I've played both have you? No way they hit as hard in rugby as football and I love rugby but the hitting is done totally differently. |
people just keep on hitting you for no apparent reason?
maybe you should stick to poker. |
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pegpig

Joined: 10 May 2005
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:35 am Post subject: |
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| How about you headbutt my fist? |
I have an even better idea. How about you fist yourself, butthead?  |
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seoulsucker

Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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| pegpig wrote: |
| seoulsucker wrote: |
| How about you headbutt my fist? |
I have an even better idea. How about you fist yourself, butthead?  |
No way. Today was chilidog day at the school cafeteria. |
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pegpig

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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:37 am Post subject: |
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| seoulsucker wrote: |
| pegpig wrote: |
| seoulsucker wrote: |
| How about you headbutt my fist? |
I have an even better idea. How about you fist yourself, butthead?  |
No way. Today was chilidog day at the school cafeteria. |
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Doogie
Joined: 19 Jan 2006 Location: Hwaseong City
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| My Dad grew up in Glasgow back in the 1950's. Back then it was probably one of the toughest cities in the world. The headbutt was affectionately called the "Glasgow Handshake". Zidane's action was no headbutt. If it was, he would've caved in the Italian's forehead. |
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