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Grrr!!!! When will the British learn...
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ed4444



Joined: 12 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:12 am    Post subject: Grrr!!!! When will the British learn... Reply with quote

.... that Ireland has been independent for over 70 years and is no longer a British country.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/5209648.stm

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Some British teams have already started their qualifying rounds for the Champions league and Uefa Cup - and more will be entering soon.

BBC Sport checks out which British teams are involved, when others are joining in, and the key dates in the Champions League and Uefa Cup campaigns for the 2006/07 season.


The following teams are included from the Republic of Ireland:

Cork
Drogheda United

They do this all the time in the British media. Sometimes I wonder if they have geography lessons at all in school there.

Thats the end of my rant for now. VANK you for reading.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I appreciate the sentiment but I think you have judged poor old BBC harshly in this instance. As my bold indicates, the writer stated that Irish teams would be mentioned along with the British teams. He later states that Cork are indeed Irish. I don't see any lack of geographical knowledge here.


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BBC Sport checks out which British teams are involved, when others are joining in including Irish sides, and the key dates in the Champions League and Uefa Cup campaigns for the 2006/07 season.


CHAMPIONS LEAGUE
Premiership champions Chelsea and runners-up Manchester United, along with Scottish champions Celtic, have already qualified for the group stage of the Champions League.

Irish side Cork face former winners Crvena Zvezda and Hearts face Bosnians Siroki Brijeg in the second qualifying round, with the ties to be played on 26 July and 2 August.



Here we see that Drogheda is not actually singled out as an Irish team but I think it was for the sake of brevity, and not geographical ignorance.

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Hoping to join them are Welsh teams Rhyl and Llanelli, as well as Glentoran, Derry City, Drogheda United and Portadown, who are all halfway through Uefa Cup first qualifying round ties.
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ed4444



Joined: 12 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think someone must have complained directly to them because that clause was just added to the page.
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bigverne



Joined: 12 May 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The article clearly describes them as Irish teams, not British ones. After 70 years, I think it's time to let the inferiority complex go.
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ed4444



Joined: 12 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigverne,

Why I am not surprised that you did not believe me when I say it was edited after I originally posted it.
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safeblad



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i suppose ireland is still part of the british isles.....

maybe its time irish people stopped relying on the bbc and got some decent networks of their own.
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ed4444



Joined: 12 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

safeblad wrote:
i suppose ireland is still part of the british isles.....

maybe its time irish people stopped relying on the bbc and got some decent networks of their own.


The term British Isles is another outdated Colonial term that is only used by British people and those who cut and paste from said literature.
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ed4444 wrote:
safeblad wrote:
i suppose ireland is still part of the british isles.....

maybe its time irish people stopped relying on the bbc and got some decent networks of their own.


The term British Isles is another outdated Colonial term that is only used by British people and those who cut and paste from said literature.


Whats the PC term for Britain and Ireland and the surrounding isles? Or aren't we allowed a joint term for 2 nations?
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ed4444



Joined: 12 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A joint term would not be a problem as long as it did not have colonial overtones.

The title British Isles suggests British ownership which of course is no longer the case despite what Bigverne may think.

Imagine if Japan included Korea in a region called the Japanese Imperial Territories. Probably wouldn't go down very well.
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose then that you support Korea's effort to change the sea of japan's name to the east sea?
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sekki



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poor little Irish... like the Kiwis and Canadians - boo hoo - you have a better, far more advanced brother - tears for you ㅠㅠ
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JLarter



Joined: 17 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My passport read: United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
That would be the official name of our great nation.
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ed4444



Joined: 12 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JLarter wrote:
My passport read: United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
That would be the official name of our great nation.


Yes that is the official name.

By the way, the correct way of typing the sentence you attempted in the present tense is

My passport reads: United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

I hope for the students sake you are not a teacher with grammar like that.
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ed4444



Joined: 12 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
I suppose then that you support Korea's effort to change the sea of japan's name to the east sea?


No, but I do think the idea of naming a sea the east sea is just as self obsessed as naming a sea the north sea however.
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ed4444



Joined: 12 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sekki wrote:
Poor little Irish... like the Kiwis and Canadians - boo hoo - you have a better, far more advanced brother - tears for you ??


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Per capita GDP is 10% above that of the four big European economies and the second highest in the EU behind Luxembourg


https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ei.html#Econ
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