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How do I report illegal teachers?
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Roch



Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bellum99 wrote:
He sounds very young and stupid. First he wants to bother talking about college days, probably because he just got out of college. Then he probably caused trouble at work and the other teachers didn't help him..(I wouldn't either), then he wants to report the school (hoping someone is illegal) for revenge.

GO HOME DUMB**

Mod Edit: Please watch the language!


That's it, Bellum, keep on imagining scenarios about the OP's situation.
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bellum99



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: don't need to know

PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I said was exactly what he was doing. Show me where I was wrong.
OH I get it...

The other teachers were wrong because they should have been kind and sweet when he forced himself on them. They should have answered every question he asked with a "Yes Sir". They don't know him or like him, but they should put themselves out on a limb to help him. He has every right to assume they are illegal and report them because he is doing the correct thing and it is not out of petty pathetic revenge. Even if the teachers are not illegal, and he has no reason to think they are, he can disrupt their lives because he is so important that they should have helped him fight the evil school owners.
I can see it so clearly now...you are right...he is blameless for his own situation....it must be a conspiracy of illegal teachers out to get him.

Next time I ask a question to any of you..you better answer or I am reporting you for being illegal. I am for sure at least as important as the OP. From now on call me

KING BELLUM99
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Dan The Chainsawman



Joined: 05 May 2005

PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you want that with the honorific knee scraping bow or can we do without?
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bellum99



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is not the actions that matter so long as your heart is in it. Smile
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drumpounder



Joined: 20 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fake degrees? 'Tis to laugh. A friend of mine, in Korea 6+ years and teaching for several at a university has filled me in on a dirty little secret in beautiful and perfect K country univ. life. The university this friend works at teaching english will SELL a BA in English to anyone who wants it! Got cash? Will educate! Laughing

See? You don't have to bring one from home anymore.
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drumpounder



Joined: 20 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan The Chainsawman wrote:
*********** you ********* dumd*** !!! For real go ***** ******* *** ******* **** your own ***** **** ****** *****!!!


Mod Edit: Please refrain from introducing necrophelia into topics.


Dear Mod. Please refrain from using the phrase 'please refrain' for awhile. And what exactly is wrong with necrophelia? I think the neck is a very sensuous place on a beautiful woman's body.
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drumpounder



Joined: 20 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yeah...OP, you're a loser.
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Panic



Joined: 03 Aug 2006
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am very tempted to report my former school as they have some random foreigner teaching my classes and I can't imagine that it's legal.

I too got fired last week in the 11th month of my contract and even though I am well set to go to the Labor Board it still annoys me greatly that my school thinks it is above the law. They even went as far as sending out a letter to all my students claiming that I was 'LAZY' after they fired me for refusing excessive overtime.

Should I push the immigration participation button? ..... it would give me the nice little warm feeling of vengeful satisfaction.

Like most things it is all a matter of context and I will let you know what I decide.

Panic
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Immigration Bureau
"Opinion & Policy Suggestion Board"
http://www.moj.go.kr/HP/COM/bbs_01/BoardList.do

Immigration Bureau: Q & A
http://www.moj.go.kr/HP/COM/bbs_05/BoardList.do

Whistleblower Protection & Reward System in Republic of Korea
(file in pdf)
http://unpan1.un.org/intradoc/groups/public/documents/APCITY/UNPAN019157.pdf

Mute whistle-blowers
What is most worrisome is that 67 percent of the respondents said they had paid dearly for whistle-blowing, facing discipline, discriminatory personnel decisions and the cold shoulder from colleagues.... More people fulfill their civic responsibilities to speak up when confronted with corruption, says the Korea Herald.

In order to reverse this trend, the commission has increased the maximum cash reward to 2 billion won....

The responsibility for making whistle-blowing a more effective weapon in fighting corruption does not lie with the government alone. We need a social consensus and concerted endeavors. The judiciary, for instance, also has a role to play.
The Korea Herald
Thursday, October 6, 2005
AsiaMedia
http://www.asiamedia.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=31105

Whistleblowing
http://post.cau.ac.kr/~parkh/ENGLISH/subject1.html

Whistleblowing and suppression of dissent: contacts:
http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/sts/bmartin/dissent/contacts

Whistleblower
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whistleblower

Blowing the Whistle
http://www.workplacefairness.org/blowing-the-whistle
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Kimchieluver



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Panic. What did the FT do to you. Your boss screwed you. He will screw the new FT too. Why are you people so bent on hurting the FTs when the hogwon is the one to blame. The labour board is god enough. You most likey will get compensation via that route. Wrecking another FT's livlihood for the sake of revenge on a hogwan owner doesn't make sense. I hope all you rat fink idiots get what you deserve.
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Cheonmunka



Joined: 04 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish I didn't bother spending 40.000 dollars and four years to become qualified. What a waste of time and money when I hear about others just hanging out in Kangnam and taking the cream.
Then, let's invite the whole world's wannabee backpack teachers, because they have decided to run away, or scab a living while traveling, and figure Korea an easy market. Invite enough of them so that institutes will pay salaries of 1.5 plus dormitory housing because that becomes the common denominator that is accepted.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheonmunka wrote:
I wish I didn't bother spending 40.000 dollars and four years to become qualified. What a waste of time and money when I hear about others just hanging out in Kangnam and taking the cream.
Then, let's invite the whole world's wannabee backpack teachers, because they have decided to run away, or scab a living while traveling, and figure Korea an easy market. Invite enough of them so that institutes will pay salaries of 1.5 plus dormitory housing because that becomes the common denominator that is accepted.


So, you got an Ed. degree then?
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Panic



Joined: 03 Aug 2006
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kimchieluver wrote:
Panic. What did the FT do to you. Your boss screwed you. He will screw the new FT too. Why are you people so bent on hurting the FTs when the hogwon is the one to blame. The labour board is god enough. You most likey will get compensation via that route. Wrecking another FT's livlihood for the sake of revenge on a hogwan owner doesn't make sense. I hope all you rat fink idiots get what you deserve.


Doesn't the hagwon employing illegal workers get in substantial trouble with immigration?

And if my hagwon wasn't so able to employ an illegal scab worker it's possible I would have never been so abused and then fired. It's possible my hagwon director wouldn't have tried to force me to work excessive overtime and then punitively renegotiate my contract during the busiest session. Alas I find myself teaching my hagwon about both Korean Labor Law and sound business practices so as a good teacher it's a tempting idea to make the lesson as memorable as possible.

If it wasn't for illegal scab labor we would have far greater protection from the market place. [Please note this angry idea excludes all F-2's who are well positioned to take full advantage of the ESL market. Kinda wish I was married now.]

However I would personally contact the Foreign Teacher and warn them off, if I did report my hagwon. I guess I have some morals Very Happy


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jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is it with you people feeling sorry for scabs and illegals? Panic, did you report your school?
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seoulsista



Joined: 31 Aug 2005

PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:

Oh, and for those who even bothered to read other threads, those other teachers haven't just stood by while a legal teacher got the shaft from the crooked hogwan owner- they actively helped. Are they still your heroes?


I did read all your threads and PMs. I missed the part where these people did anything directly to worsen your situation. Please give details. If they somehow actually caused you to get fired or helped then I can see why you would want to report them. I still wouldn't do it - I am a pretty strong believer in that people like that will get what they have coming.

BTW - Have you reported them yet?

Also, you said that they often visited this site and would report back, right?
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