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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:07 am    Post subject: per se per se per se per se per se per se per se per se.. Reply with quote

NOT "PER SAY"

"Per say" = "Search found 650 matches"
"Per se" = "Search found 2241 matches"

That is like 25% of people using the term incorrectly. I bet most of those aren't "Miss Qs" either. That definately winds me up much more than people with there other grammetical erors.
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kermo



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:14 am    Post subject: Re: per se per se per se per se per se per se per se per se. Reply with quote

Hyeon Een wrote:
NOT "PER SAY"

"Per say" = "Search found 650 matches"
"Per se" = "Search found 2241 matches"

That is like 25% of people using the term incorrectly. I bet most of those aren't "Miss Qs" either. That definately winds me up much more than people with there other grammetical erors.


Tick tick tick. The net has been cast. Who will swim indignantly inside?
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You missed on, HE. It's "more then", not "more than".


And while we're on the subject, what's that rock song I keep thinking of these days? It goes something like "ooooh, baby... something-something" and then there's this great guitar riff that kinda goes like "weeeeerrrrr!, weeeerrrrrr!, WEEEEEEERRRR!", really loud, you know? And then it's "ooooh baby, you really ... something-something" -- that's the chorus. Man, that song totally rocks. Anyway, what's it called again? You hear it all the time, everyone knows it. C'mon, you know... "ooooh, baby..."? No?
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captain planet



Joined: 18 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you know, i really don't think it makes that much difference how good a teacher's grammar is over here. most of the kids struggle to make cohesive and coherent sentences, and i really don't think minor spelling errors on the teacher's part is what is going to make or break a student's ability to communicate in pidgin english. and let's face it, a lot of the time, that's all we can expect.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:25 am    Post subject: Re: per se per se per se per se per se per se per se per se. Reply with quote

kermo wrote:
Quote:

That is like 25% of people using the term incorrectly. I bet most of those aren't "Miss Qs" either. That definately winds me up much more than people with there other grammetical erors.[/u][/i]


Tick tick tick. The net has been cast. Who will swim indignantly inside?

Oh man, I'm gonna have to sit on my hands!!!! Embarassed
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib

PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JongnoGuru wrote:
You missed on, HE. It's "more then", not "more than".


And while we're on the subject, what's that rock song I keep thinking of these days? It goes something like "ooooh, baby... something-something" and then there's this great guitar riff that kinda goes like "weeeeerrrrr!, weeeerrrrrr!, WEEEEEEERRRR!", really loud, you know? And then it's "ooooh baby, you really ... something-something" -- that's the chorus. Man, that song totally rocks. Anyway, what's it called again? You hear it all the time, everyone knows it. C'mon, you know... "ooooh, baby..."? No?


Peter Frampton. Pop / Rock section, over by Gospel.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

grammar or spelling....grammar or spelling...It's SO hard not to react.

I used to know a teacher who used 'per se' in about every third sentence, even when speaking to Koreans. Its use didn't bother me so much, per say, but the frequency did.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, I have another one to add.

"Nevermind" is a Nirvana album.
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numazawa



Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: The Concrete Barnyard

PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JongnoGuru wrote:
...and then there's this great guitar riff that kinda goes like "weeeeerrrrr!, weeeerrrrrr!, WEEEEEEERRRR!", really loud, you know?


I'm sure they stole that part.
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Newbie



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JongnoGuru wrote:
You missed on, HE. It's "more then", not "more than".


Wow! My English sucks then. I would have thought it was "I like it more than XXX" Even though I guess it should really be "I like it better than XXX"

WHAT?!? I've just confused the helll out of myself.

When the heck do we say "more then"??
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Newbie wrote:
JongnoGuru wrote:
You missed on, HE. It's "more then", not "more than".


Wow! My English sucks then. I would have thought it was "I like it more than XXX" Even though I guess it should really be "I like it better than XXX"

WHAT?!? I've just confused the helll out of myself.

When the heck do we say "more then"??


When we're eating something delicious. Then we're like, "I'll have more, then."
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Dan The Chainsawman



Joined: 05 May 2005

PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vok ol zhah ves simple. Usstan ssinssrin ussta cahallin cooked xuil butter lu' onion. Er'griff t'yin orn Usstan kyon z'lonzic ulu bother answering xuil folbol yutreess. Qualla refrain dal ulin postings bauth nindol s'enar d' subject wun l' ulin p'los meal draeval!!!!!!!!!!!!
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pegpig



Joined: 10 May 2005

PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Newbie wrote:
JongnoGuru wrote:
You missed on, HE. It's "more then", not "more than".


Wow! My English sucks then. I would have thought it was "I like it more than XXX" Even though I guess it should really be "I like it better than XXX"

WHAT?!? I've just confused the helll out of myself.

When the heck do we say "more then"??


They were both trying to be funny. HE was intentionally making some obvious mistakes and Guru was trying to say that HE forgot to make one more mistake. It is supposed to be 'than'. (Any highschool dropout should know that.)

I can't believe I went through the effort of explaining that.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, and I also make an unintentional typo -- "on" should have been "one".

Maddening.
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Newbie



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pegpig wrote:

I can't believe I went through the effort of explaining that.


Oh, be nice. Everyone has brain cramps from time to time. Mine, unfortunately, has lasted about 16 months.

And I never thought of Guru as having a sense of humour so didn't clue in to the joke. Not that I really know Guru or remember many of his posts, he just happens to stick out in my head as being all business and no foolin about. (yes, i know i may be WAY off)
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