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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:04 am    Post subject: The verdict is....... Reply with quote

GUILTY!!!!! Crying or Very sad Embarassed

I did it...yes....I ..... did.

Within two weeks I shall be the proud owner of:

Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.40GHz
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2280512&CatId=2396

Intel D975XBXLKR ATX Motherboard
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1766877

BFG GeForce 7900GTX
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1929943&Tab=2&NoMapp=0

OCZ EL Dual Channel 2048MB PC 5400 DDR 667MHz
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1482928&Sku=O261-5136

Masscool cooling fan
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1272104

I was going to get the BFG Geforce 7950 GX2
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2244222&Sku=B52-7848

but decided to save the $350 for a good monitor.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I was your wife, I'd kick you in the pants and cut up your credit card.
(but until she reads this, enjoy your new rig!)
Razz
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks ever so sweet..........

......Dang! I promised my wife it would be 3 years before my next upgrade!!! What was I thinking!!!!

Of course, if I just pay cash for stuff then I can swap in and out parts and she'll never know the difference!!! Twisted Evil

7900GTX!!! That's a serious card. You have to get a good monitor to match that card.

I totally recommend a widescreen. Games look amazing. DVD and widescreen monitors are just peas and carrotts! Also, you can look at two things at once. You can get two decent sized webpages side by side at the same time. Or browse the internet while watching some show you downloaded.

I'll never go back to 4:3.
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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!

PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bulsajo wrote:
If I was your wife, I'd kick you in the pants and cut up your credit card.
(but until she reads this, enjoy your new rig!)
Razz


hehehhe. Laughing Oh no my friend. You don't get it. There was a "trade" agreement attached to this. I don't make BIG purchases like this without consulting her first. TRUST ME!!!!! She is getting her share of stuff too. Also, this is my early Christmas present, my "congratulations" present for getting accepted into my Master's program back home, my 2 year wedding anniversary present, my.......
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's going to be a sweet machine.
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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!

PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
That looks ever so sweet..........

......Dang! I promised my wife it would be 3 years before my next upgrade!!! What was I thinking!!!!

Of course, if I just pay cash for stuff then I can swap in and out parts and she'll never know the difference!!! Twisted Evil

7900GTX!!! That's a serious card. You have to get a good monitor to match that card.

I totally recommend a widescreen. Games look amazing. DVD and widescreen monitors are just peas and carrotts! Also, you can look at two things at once. You can get two decent sized webpages side by side at the same time. Or browse the internet while watching some show you downloaded.

I'll never go back to 4:3.


alright now...wait a minute. I need help with monitors. According to the reviews I have been reading, widescreen monitors are DEFINITELY good for viewing movies. Conversely, the 19" standard seems to be getting better reviews in the "gaming" area. This is where I need yall's input. I found a nice 19" widescreen for around 320,000, but am afraid that my games won't look so great on it.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got one 19" widescreen and one 19" regular hooked up to my machine. I much prefer the regular 19" screen. However I don't play games and can't help you out there.

When I get my new computer next year, I'm planning on getting a 24" screen and having that sitting next to the regular 19". the 19" widescreen will then stay with current computer (i.e. for the wife)
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rejected the idea of a 19'' widescreen or 19'' 4:3 monitor. In the store they just looked a little too small.

I wanted a significant jump from my old 17''. I don't see the point in just upping the monitor size by a small amount. Especially if the PC has a lot of power under the hood.

If you are going to play games at all there are two main things to consider when choosing any LCD of any shape.

Response time......in ms(miliseconds) Lower is better. A good gaming LCD will have a response time of less than 8ms.

Contrast......Higher is better. A ratio of 800:1 is good. 1000:1 is excellent.

Here's a good article comparing a few 20.1 widescreens. Mine is in there. The Viewsonic. http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/06/27/xxl_displays/

I should say that DVD movies look great on widescreen monitors, but only because they match the format of the movie with no blackbars top and bottom. The actual picture quality from a computer DVD drive onto and LCD is actually quite poor compared to regular old TV.
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Clutch Cargo



Joined: 28 Feb 2003
Location: Sim City 2005

PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your next rig looks great.
Here's the monitor I recently got http://shop.pcbee.co.kr/goods/peripheral/monitor/iclub_16947.html
for 215 k won. It was a toss up between this and another brand (20 ") for about 40 k won more, so I took this because the response time is 8 ms.
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muggie2dammit



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Location: Ilsan, Korea

PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clutch Cargo wrote:
Your next rig looks great.
Here's the monitor I recently got http://shop.pcbee.co.kr/goods/peripheral/monitor/iclub_16947.html
for 215 k won. It was a toss up between this and another brand (20 ") for about 40 k won more, so I took this because the response time is 8 ms.


Yeah, the PowerLab LCDs are nice.
Personally, I'd jump for a 20" rather than a 19" because of the resolution (19" usually max out at 1280x1024, 20" usually max out at 1600x1200), and for the additional size - you may think an extra inch doesn't matter, but there's millions of spams a day saying otherwise. But I digress...
Yeah, I like the 19" but check a few of the 20" ones, especially if they have 8ms refresh and a 700:1 or 1000:1 ratio. Lower than 8ms refresh doesn't seem to make a huge difference.

Muggie2
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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all of the suggestions. Now, let me get this straight:

the lower the refresh rate 8ms or less, the better?

the higher the ratio 800:1 or 1000:1 the better?
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Faster reponse times are better. Less (or almost no) tearing in games. Higher contrast ratios are better at displaying a wider range from absolute white to absolute black. Higher is better.

cl, with that rig, don't sell it short with a ho-hum monitor. Listen to eamo on this one.
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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demophobe wrote:
Faster reponse times are better. Less (or almost no) tearing in games. Higher contrast ratios are better at displaying a wider range from absolute white to absolute black. Higher is better.

cl, with that rig, don't sell it short with a ho-hum monitor. Listen to eamo on this one.


yeah. I am. So in summary, what are the minimum specs. I should go for on my monitor?

Thus far, it'll definitely be a 19" standard screen.
8ms?
1000:1 ?
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cubanlord wrote:
Demophobe wrote:
Faster reponse times are better. Less (or almost no) tearing in games. Higher contrast ratios are better at displaying a wider range from absolute white to absolute black. Higher is better.

cl, with that rig, don't sell it short with a ho-hum monitor. Listen to eamo on this one.


yeah. I am. So in summary, what are the minimum specs. I should go for on my monitor?

Thus far, it'll definitely be a 19" standard screen.
8ms?
1000:1 ?


Going for standard?........ho-hum... Wink

Okay.....

I almost bought this one.....5ms response time. 800:1 contrast.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824001226

But...I really, really recommend this one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824116381

Both are in Yongsan for under 400,000.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought this monitor at the beginning of July and am satisfied with it. If you want a widescreen it's an excellent monitor. My only regret is that I didn't get a full size.

my full-size also doubles as an LCD tv. I bought it December 2004 and you can still get it online here the refresh is 8ms but the contrast is only 700:1 - even so I'm quite happy with it.
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