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For those who've seen Gwemul (the Host).Is it AntiAmerican?

 
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billybrobby



Joined: 09 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:48 am    Post subject: For those who've seen Gwemul (the Host).Is it AntiAmerican? Reply with quote

I saw 괴물 yesterday. I'll say, if you care, that I really liked it. I only understood about 50% of the dialog (I couldn't understand a damn thing the grandpa said) but it was enough to enjoy it. This question is, is it anti-American?

I say, yes, it is anti-American government. But it's not anti-American person. I say that because all the American scientists and officials in the movie are more or less evil. But then there's that American dude who rushes off to save everybody in the first scene. And the dude has a Korean girlfriend no less!
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Billy Pilgrim



Joined: 08 Sep 2004

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 3:11 pm    Post subject: Re: For those who've seen Gwemul (the Host).Is it AntiAmeric Reply with quote

billybrobby wrote:
I saw 괴물 yesterday. I'll say, if you care, that I really liked it. I only understood about 50% of the dialog (I couldn't understand a damn thing the grandpa said) but it was enough to enjoy it. This question is, is it anti-American?

I say, yes, it is anti-American government. But it's not anti-American person. I say that because all the American scientists and officials in the movie are more or less evil. But then there's that American dude who rushes off to save everybody in the first scene. And the dude has a Korean girlfriend no less!


I think its pretty much anti-any government. The Koreans are not exactly treated any better by the film.

There was a waygook "hero", which was nice to see, but that's not unprecedented; WELCOME TO DONGMAKGOL and PLEASE TEACH ME ENGLISH both feature very sympathetic Western characters.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

U.S. Army Keeping Close Eye on Han River Monster
Chosun Ilbo (August 11, 2006)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200608/200608110014.html

Here There Be Monsters
By AIDAN FOSTER-CARTER, New York Times (August 11, 2006)
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/11/opinion/11foster-carter.html

'Host' Rewrites Sci-Fi Film History
By Kim Tae-jong, Korea Times (July 27, 2006)
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/culture/200607/kt2006072717272910970.htm

You might find this interesting.

The Korea Times published an article on some companies that dumped toxic chemicals into streams. I will place part of the article and link below. If you go to the webpage, please scroll down. It is the second story on the page. The first story is Shameless Supply of Bad Food.

Dumping of Toxic Chemicals Into Streams
It is shocking news that 29 timber companies were found to have released 271 tons of formalin over the past three years into streams feeding the Han River, the main source of drinking water for Seoul and Kyonggi Province. Formalin is basically a watered-down version of the highly toxic formaldehyde.
Korea Times (November 3, 2003)
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/opinion/200311/kt2003110317083811300.htm

Here is an article excerpt from the JoongAng Daily.

15 held for dumping poison into Han
Seoul prosecutors yesterday said they have indicted 15 people for dumping more than 270 tons of a toxic chemical into a tributary of the Han River, just three kilometers (1.9 miles) from locations where drinking water for Seoul is collected.
by Lee Soo-ki, JoongAng Daily (November 2, 2003)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200311/02/200311022354215509900090409041.html

Here is an excerpt from an article on the dumping by the person that influenced the creation of the movie.

U.S. man is found guilty of polluting Han River
A diplomatic dispute appears to be brewing following a guilty verdict reached in absentia yesterday by the Seoul District Court involving Albert McFarland, an American civilian employee of the U.S. military's mortuary, accused of discharging toxic chemicals into Seoul's Han River.
The court ruling imposed a six-month prison term on Mr. McFarland who was found guilty of discharging 24 gallons of formaldehyde into the river in February, 2000.
by Kim Hyeon-gyeong, JoongAng Daily (January 10, 2004)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200401/10/200401100102052779900090409041.html

Here is an article excerpt on toxic waste.

Toxic waste counted at 31,000 tons in 2000
The Environment Ministry reported Wednesday that 31,000 metric tons of harmful waste chemical matter were released into Korean air, water and soil in 2000.
by Kang Chan-su, JoongAng Daily (January 5, 2003)
http://article.joins.com/article/naver.asp?aid=1906187
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are Americans really that insecure that they can feel threatened by this movie? That NY Times article is so filled with anger it's just retarded.
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hub of Asia my ass.
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Billy Pilgrim



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
Are Americans really that insecure that they can feel threatened by this movie? That NY Times article is so filled with anger it's just retarded.


Its an incredibly small part of the film. I think much more interesting is that the rabidly anti-Japanese HANBADO hasn't really caught on at the box office. Now, it may well be that its a crap film, (but that didn't stop SILMIDO, TAEGUKGI and THE KING AND THE CLOWN, did it?), but its nice to know that merely trading in resentment against another country doesn't guarantee automatic box office gold.

(That said, of course, its still the third highest grossing movie of the year, but nowhere near what was predicted)
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billybrobby



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
Are Americans really that insecure that they can feel threatened by this movie? That NY Times article is so filled with anger it's just retarded.


so what'd you think about it when you watched it?
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iain77



Joined: 12 Apr 2004
Location: here, now

PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i caught a little bit of that vibe, but it did not seem to be the base note. as in welcome to dongmakgol it seemed to me that they were (awkwardly accomplished as it were) trying to be somewhat balanced about it. good flick.
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