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		| Real Reality 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 5:04 am    Post subject: How many days off? 177? |   |  
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				| Workers Take 177 Days Off a Year 
 Hyundai Motor employees will enjoy the greatest number of holidays among their peers worldwide once it introduces the five-day workweek next month.
 
 With the agreement between management and the union, male and female workers of Hyundai Motor will have 165 and 177 holidays per year, respectively.
 
 "Taking days off due to a variety of celebratory and condolences occasions into consideration, the number will come to 170 and 182," a Hyundai Motor executive said.
 
 Employees will stay away from their workplaces for nearly half the 365 days per year.
 
 According to the Ministry of Labor yesterday, the number of annual days off for American workers stands at 121-163, 129-139 for the Japanese, 136 for British workers and 137-140 for Germans.
 
 Most Korean employees have annual vacations totaling 91-101 days, it said.
 
 A Labor Ministry official said, "Personnel costs are expected to surge at the company as compensation will be given to workers not taking their authorized holidays."
 
 http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/biz/200308/kt2003080719232211910.htm
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		| Cthulhu 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 5:45 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Screw my uni job, I wanna work at Hyundai!   
 But seriously, who are the bigger fools, the unions for putting their companies down the path to reduncancy through high costs (profit margins on Korean cars are low already), management for giving in and allowing the madness to continue or the Noh government for helping to kill economic recovery. Just plain nuts.
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		| kiwiboy_nz_99 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 7:23 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Totally agree with the 5 day work week. Through healthier, happier,and perhaps because of that, more productive and ( dare I venture ) creative workers, costs will be defrayed. Not so sure about all the other one off non-work days though. |  | 
	
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		| justagirl 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 7:16 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Interesting...maybe we should put ourselves in the equation: 
 I work 187 days this contracted year....
 
 this means 178 days off!
 
 woo-hoo!  I'm a Hyundai equivilent employee, working less than 100 hours a month!
 
 How about you???
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		| Cthulhu 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 7:28 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | Interesting...maybe we should put ourselves in the equation: 
 I work 187 days this contracted year....
 
 this means 178 days off!
 
 woo-hoo! I'm a Hyundai equivilent employee, working less than 100 hours a month!
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 Now if only you received their pay as well as the time off (over 50 million won per annum on average)...
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		| justagirl 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 7:57 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Gee...just when I started to feel good about my job.... 
 
 
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		| bucheon bum 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 9:04 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| 50 million won/year? Yes, we definitly are in the wrong business here in Korea  |  | 
	
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		| simulated stereo 
 
 
 Joined: 18 Jan 2003
 Location: municipal flat block 18-A Linear North
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 9:17 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | kiwiboy_nz_99 wrote: |  
	  | Totally agree with the 5 day work week. Through healthier, happier,and perhaps because of that, more productive and ( dare I venture ) creative workers, costs will be defrayed. Not so sure about all the other one off non-work days though. |  
 Fitter Happier
 
 more productive
 comfortable
 not drinking too much
 regular exercise at the gym (3 days a week)
 getting on better with your associate employee contemporaries
 at ease
 eating well (no more microwave dinners and saturated fats)
 a patient better driver
 a safer car (baby smiling in back seat)
 sleeping well (no bad dreams)
 no paranoia
 careful to all animals (never washing spiders down the plughole)
 keep in contact with old friends (enjoy a drink now and then)
 will frequently check credit at (moral) bank (hole in wall)
 favours for favours
 fond but not in love
 charity standing orders
 on sundays ring road supermarket
 (no killing moths or putting boiling water on the ants)
 car wash (also on sundays)
 no longer afraid of the dark
 or midday shadows
 nothing so ridiculously teenage and desperate
 nothing so childish
 at a better pace
 slower and more calculated
 no chance of escape
 now self-employed
 concerned (but powerless)
 an empowered and informed member of society (pragmatism not idealism)
 will not cry in public
 less chance of illness
 tires that grip in the wet (shot of baby strapped in back seat)
 a good memory
 still cries at a good film
 still kisses with saliva
 no longer empty and frantic
 like a cat
 tied to a stick
 that's driven into
 frozen winter shit (the ability to laugh at weakness)
 calm
 fitter, healthier and more productive
 a pig
 in a cage
 on antibiotics
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		| kiwiboy_nz_99 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 11:36 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Thom York is my role model! |  | 
	
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		| Cthulhu 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 11:51 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Amen, Stephen Hawking....er, Thom Yorke! |  | 
	
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		| Yaya 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 9:51 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Unfortunately, the five-day workweek might actually result in longer hours because bosses will probably try to force employees to stay at the office longer through showing up earlier or going home later. Remember, it is still common practice for the boss to leave before anyone else does. 
 I hope Koreans realize soon that it's not how long you work, it's how well.
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		| Cthulhu 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 5:11 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | I hope Koreans realize soon that it's not how long you work, it's how well. |  
 That's never gone over well here and I doubt it will change anytime soon. I've never seen so much wasted office time as I have here.
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