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Kennnardc



Joined: 22 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 3:31 am    Post subject: DO NOT WORK HOGWON Reply with quote

Sad Well with all my efforts, including a Korean translation, I was told to go home. They kept the 820,000 won plus refused to pay for my expense for showering. DO NOT WORK for HanMi in Sacheon, Samcheompo. They arecrooked. All they want to do is collect money from students who never speak any better. They all just read and write and have no idea of meaning.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Expenses for showering??? Laughing

What the heck?
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alabamaman



Joined: 25 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 3:42 am    Post subject: Re: DO NOT WORK HOGWON Reply with quote

Kennnardc wrote:
Sad Well with all my efforts, including a Korean translation, I was told to go home. They kept the 820,000 won plus refused to pay for my expense for showering. DO NOT WORK for HanMi in Sacheon, Samcheompo. They arecrooked. All they want to do is collect money from students who never speak any better. They all just read and write and have no idea of meaning.


Why were you asked to leave?
Why did HanMi keep 820,000 Korean Won from your monthly salary?
When did this take place?
What was your working relationship like with your supervisor?
What were the working conditions like there?
Did your supervisor honor the terms and conditions of your contract?
Were you paid on time?
Was $$ deducted for the Korean National Healthcare Plan?
Was $$ deducted for the Korean Pension Fund?
Was $$ deducted for Income Taxes?
What were your living conditions like aside from the shower issue?
Were there any other unnecessary deductions made from your wages?


alabamaman


Last edited by alabamaman on Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:07 am; edited 14 times in total
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flotsam



Joined: 28 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 3:43 am    Post subject: Re: DO NOT WORK HOGWON Reply with quote

Kennnardc wrote:
Sad Well with all my efforts, including a Korean translation, I was told to go home. They kept the 820,000 won plus refused to pay for my expense for showering. DO NOT WORK for HanMi in Sacheon, Samcheompo. They arecrooked. All they want to do is collect money from students who never speak any better. They all just read and write and have no idea of meaning.


Based on the thread title and the quality of the writing above, I would say somebody's either bladdered or Korean.
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having no shower in your housing is insane. That's one you just take for granted. Having to pay your own money to go get cleaned up at a public bath house (every day?)... that's just nuts.

(unbelievable, but let's give him the benefit of the doubt)
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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All they want to do is collect money from students who never speak any better.


Sounds like every hogwan. Rolling Eyes
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excitinghead



Joined: 18 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Han-Mi in Sacheon? Is it related to ELS in Jinju by any chance? A loooooong time ago, I worked at Han-Mi in Jinju, which was in front of Gyeongsang University. But it got knocked down to make way for some apartments, and good riddance. Are the bosses two brothers, and one is called JP?

If yes to all the above, I'm sorry to hear it. I thought what they did when I was there was bad enough and, boy, do I have some stories, but they don't compare to your shower issue.
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seoulsista



Joined: 31 Aug 2005

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:10 am    Post subject: Re: DO NOT WORK HOGWON Reply with quote

flotsam wrote:
Kennnardc wrote:
Sad Well with all my efforts, including a Korean translation, I was told to go home. They kept the 820,000 won plus refused to pay for my expense for showering. DO NOT WORK for HanMi in Sacheon, Samcheompo. They arecrooked. All they want to do is collect money from students who never speak any better. They all just read and write and have no idea of meaning.


Based on the thread title and the quality of the writing above, I would say somebody's either bladdered or Korean.


The "no idea of meaning" was a dead giveaway. OP just tell the true story.
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excitinghead



Joined: 18 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He (I think, sorry if I'm wrong), already did explain the situation in another thread here:

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=64496&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Sure the OP in this thread is a little brief and difficult to understand if you haven't read the other thread, but give the guy a break; I'd write like that too if I didn't have a shower and that was how the boss handled it.
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still say sock/troll

How could anyone who has been here for a while as the OP claims allow themselves to be treated so?

I say baloney!
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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:03 am    Post subject: Re: DO NOT WORK HOGWON Reply with quote

alabamaman wrote:


Why were you asked to leave?
Why did HanMi keep 820,000 Korean Won from your monthly salary?
When did this take place?
What was your working relationship like with your supervisor?
What were the working conditions like there?
Did your supervisor honor the terms and conditions of your contract?
Were you paid on time?
Was $$ deducted for the Korean National Healthcare Plan?
Was $$ deducted for the Korean Pension Fund?
Was $$ deducted for Income Taxes?
What were your living conditions like aside from the shower issue?
Were there any other unnecessary deductions made from your wages?


alabamaman

Last edited by alabamaman on Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:07 pm; edited 14 times in total


14 edits to put that one up? Post fixation, much?
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"DO NOT WORK HOGWON"...is "hogwon" an adverb?
"They all just read and write and have no idea of meaning." As my English OOPS (teacher) used to say, "rewrite".

"This is just few of the obsticals teaching in rural Korea."
"This" and "Is" are singular. ObstAclEs is plural...These are...

If you were drunk when you wrote the original post, I can understand all the spelling mistakes, and duplicated letters, but damn, I count at least 11 mistakes in an eleven line post.



engrishee not good situation. English teacher or k-troll? Dunno.


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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am thinking k-troll as there have been no replies from the OP.
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sheba



Joined: 16 May 2005
Location: Here there and everywhere!

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korean teacher sacked perhaps?

Theyre pissed and trying to gove the hagwon a bad name? (deserved probably)
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a PM from the OP regarding my post. Not as bad a flame as I thought it might be. He explained that his errors were a result of anger, and that he is a professional teacher and has thirty years experience. While the English in the first two thirds of his PM was impeccable (sp?), the last two lines, quoted below; again, makes me think K-troll.

"They took my money which I worked hard for and tried to improve students. They did not live up to contract."

The first sentence IS a sentence, but not in the way he meant it. He, I believe, is trying to say that he worked hard and tried to improve his students <English skills>sic, but they took his money. What he ACTUALLY wrote was that not only did his employers take his money, but that they ALSO tried to improve the students. Well, DAMN THEM for doing that!

The second sentence is missing a very important article. Interestingly, it's a common mistake even among my highest level students.

Sorry OP. Having trouble believing who you say you are.
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