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Bulsajo
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vox
Joined: 13 Feb 2005
Location: Jeollabukdo
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| Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:39 am Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
| Let's see......Gibson is a jew-hater, hard-core Catholic, drunk-driver, hammy-actor |
Mel Gibson's not a Catholic. He follows a sect whose leader, dissident French Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, was excommunicated by the pope. This sect believes the faith has been betrayed by false popes since Vatican II, etc.
http://moses.creighton.edu/jrs/2004/2004-6.html
Even if you're not interested in Mel's convictions or Catholicism, it is interesting to note that here, too, he's running his own show.
Screw the faith, it's my f***ing church
Screw the law, it's my f***ing car
Screw sobriety of social context, it's my f***ing opinion
Apologies if this profile is too crassly drawn. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:48 am Post subject: |
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When you put it in that context, he sounds an awful lot like Russel Crowe.
Itaewonguy, what do those two have in common? |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:09 am Post subject: Re: Mel Gibson: Genius or Fool? |
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What do you think of Mel Gibson since his drunken dirty mouth has gotten him in so much trouble?
I still respect the man. Braveheart is a classic. I've heard good things about The Passion of The Christ, but have not seen it yet. |
i've always been indifferent towards the guy - probably because i never knew he was so opinionated.
the more i heard of his opinions, the less and less i want to hear them. |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:10 am Post subject: |
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| Like with Tom Cruise, highly talented and driven, but his eccentricities are becoming more marked with age. |
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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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| Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Mel Gibson is anti-semitic filth. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:49 am Post subject: |
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| Privateer wrote: |
| Like with Tom Cruise, highly talented and driven, but his eccentricities are becoming more marked with age. |
That's debatable. Don't confuse fame with talent. |
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Sleepy in Seoul
Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: Going in ever decreasing circles until I eventually disappear up my own fundament - in NZ
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| vox wrote: |
| Mel Gibson's not a Catholic. He follows a sect whose leader, dissident French Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, was excommunicated by the pope. This sect believes the faith has been betrayed by false popes since Vatican II, etc. |
Wrong. Mel Gibson is a Catholic - a traditional Catholic. Archbishop Lefebvre may have been excommunicated (wrongly as many, if not all, traditional Catholics believe), but none of the lay Catholics who celebrate the tridentine mass were. |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:53 am Post subject: |
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| Bulsajo wrote: |
When you put it in that context, he sounds an awful lot like Russel Crowe.
Itaewonguy, what do those two have in common? |
they are both multi millionairs! and dont give a SH*T what you or anyone else thinks!!
everyone lives their life the way they want to live it..
the daves esl drunks on this board, like you, are worse than them! only difference is you have no money! and no one actually even cares or listens to your opinion!!
mel and russel are legends!!
so what they say somethings on their mind!
like you havent!!!
for that matter, like any famous person hasnt? |
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:13 am Post subject: |
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mel gibson - bad actor who clings to an archaic, bizarre, cultish religion that believes in virgin births and talking plants.
simply put, "fruitcake" - whose opinions on anything, especially world jewry - should be summarily ignored. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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| itaewonguy wrote: |
| Bulsajo wrote: |
When you put it in that context, he sounds an awful lot like Russel Crowe.
Itaewonguy, what do those two have in common? |
they are both multi millionairs! and dont give a SH*T what you or anyone else thinks!!
everyone lives their life the way they want to live it..
the daves esl drunks on this board, like you, are worse than them! only difference is you have no money! and no one actually even cares or listens to your opinion!!
mel and russel are legends!!
so what they say somethings on their mind!
like you havent!!!
for that matter, like any famous person hasnt? |
Well, you've certainly put me in my place!
Now, what about the other dozen or so who agree!! with me!!
because!! you might! not like! it, but!!! I'M RIGHT!
Those guys are just proof that being an arsehole isn't something you can buy your way out of [and yes, it takes one to know one- I've never denied that].
So... itaewonguy, you don't think he's a fool for driving drunk?
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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Bulsajo wrote: |
| itaewonguy wrote: |
| Bulsajo wrote: |
When you put it in that context, he sounds an awful lot like Russel Crowe.
Itaewonguy, what do those two have in common? |
they are both multi millionairs! and dont give a SH*T what you or anyone else thinks!!
everyone lives their life the way they want to live it..
the daves esl drunks on this board, like you, are worse than them! only difference is you have no money! and no one actually even cares or listens to your opinion!!
mel and russel are legends!!
so what they say somethings on their mind!
like you havent!!!
for that matter, like any famous person hasnt? |
Well, you've certainly put me in my place!
Now, what about the other dozen or so who agree!! with me!!
because!! you might! not lie! it, but!!! I'M RIGHT!
Those guys are just proof that being an arsehole isn't something you can buy your way out of [and yes, it takes one to know one- I've never denied that].
So... itaewonguy, you don't think he's a fool for driving drunk? |
What are the odds that before Sideshow Mel got pulled over, he was slamming vodka while watching _The Hebrew Hammer_ in his car? |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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| The Man known as The Man wrote: |
| watching _The Hebrew Hammer |
I don't know what that is but you certainly have a way of making it sound like a euphemism for something obscene.
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
| ...hammy-actor... |
Here's a real hammy actor:
_*_ |
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vox
Joined: 13 Feb 2005
Location: Jeollabukdo
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Sleepy in Seoul wrote: |
| vox wrote: |
| Mel Gibson's not a Catholic. He follows a sect whose leader, dissident French Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, was excommunicated by the pope. This sect believes the faith has been betrayed by false popes since Vatican II, etc. |
Wrong. Mel Gibson is a Catholic - a traditional Catholic. Archbishop Lefebvre may have been excommunicated (wrongly as many, if not all, traditional Catholics believe), but none of the lay Catholics who celebrate the tridentine mass were. |
Wrong. He's not a traditional Catholic. He's a Traditionalist. A formal name for a formal sect whose leader was booted for a reason.
Not that this fine point will adhere to a lesser mind bent on hate, but for the sake of torment, traditional Catholics and Traditionalists are quite separate... ecumenicism, anti-Semitism, and the existence of a pope being defining issues. Some former Catholics have never accepted JPII's attempts to find common ground between different faiths (e.g. Catholicism and Protestantism, Catholicism and Judaism, Catholicism and Greek Orthodox Church, etc.) and have left because of it. Maybe it's good that Traditionalists separated themselves and then got their leader booted. Maybe not. But it happened. I can understand the apologist motive for a Traditionalist, although they wouldn't necessarily find any company with a traditional Catholic.
The Baha'i faith had a similar problem in the 1980's with a group in Los Angeles who started out as Baha'is, then started veering quite sharply from the tenets of the faith (some scandalous stuff) and were summarily booted (no longer representing any ability to teach the Baha'i faith) although they continued to claim differently. |
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