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rocklee



Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:16 pm    Post subject: Korean Air bans Apple, Dell notebooks on board Reply with quote

http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2019

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Korean Air has forbidden the use of Dell and Apple laptop PCs during flight due to the risk of battery explosion, according to the Korean Times.

The Korean national flag carrier said yesterday that the ban was put in place after the two computer manufacturers announced a recall of batteries used in some of their notebook models.

"Due to the risk of onboard fire, we are not allowing passengers to use certain brands of laptops on the plane. Safety always comes first for us," a Korean Air spokesperson told the Times, adding they were unsure when the ban would be lifted.

Although the airline is prohibiting all models of Dell notebooks and Apple's PowerBook and iBook systems, users can reportedly continue to carry them on board the flight if they separate the batteries into checked baggage.

"We have put notices at check-in counters and boarding gates but we don�t inspect all carry-on baggage," a gate attendant told the Times.

Korean Air is the second airline to restrict the in-flight use of Dell and Apple notebooks in recent weeks. Late last month, Australia's Qantas announced a similar policy.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Phew!" said the HP & LG owner.

Wait a minute -- I never fly KAL. Or Qantas. So who cares!! Razz


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Lizara



Joined: 14 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is completely ridiculous. I don't know about Dell, but I seem to remember reading that the latest Apple battery recall was because something like six people complained about their laptops getting too hot. There were definitely no fires involved.
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RobinH



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Either this just happened in the last few days or they aren't following their own rules. I flew in on KAL Sunday before last with my Powerbook in my carry on bag. I also used it during the flight.
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Woland



Joined: 10 May 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm flying Sunday back to the States for a week. What a bother this is going to be. The battery problems with Apple were for batteries with certain serial numbers for each type of laptop. I checked. My computer's battery is not from that batch. So, I'm gonna have to remove it and then replace it later anyway because they can't understand the limited aspect of this problem? Stupidism strikes again.
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MantisBot



Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craptastic! I'm slated to arrive this weekend... WITH A MAC LAPTOP!

Maybe if I run down to the Apple store before hand they can give me a doctor's note or something saying my laptop doesn't spontaneously combust.

Of course, it's not like I'll be using my laptop on the flight... that's what my DS and Ipod are for:p
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JongnoGuru



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heck fiddly, just don't fly KAL! Regardless of the laptop policy, just don't fly them!!!
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MantisBot



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll see what I can do:p Now it's time to cure my insomnia with SLEEP!

I guess I'm preparing in advance for the time change:p
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4 months left



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lizara wrote:
This is completely ridiculous. I don't know about Dell, but I seem to remember reading that the latest Apple battery recall was because something like six people complained about their laptops getting too hot. There were definitely no fires involved.


Batteries were made by Sony for both Dell & Apple.

Apple Joins Dell In Sony Battery Recall
http://www.forbes.com/markets/currencies/2006/08/24/apple-sony-batteries-cx_rr_0824apple.html


"Exploding" Dell Laptop Destroys Truck
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/08/dell_fire.html

Dell Laptop Blamed for House Fire
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/08/dell_house_fire.html
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periwinkle



Joined: 08 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just hide it- you don't have to show anyone what kind of computer you have. Have an Apple or Dell logo on your bag? Turn it around so they can't see the logo if you're worried about it. Flight attendants for sure won't give a rat's behind what kind of computer you have. ^~
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Milwaukiedave



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah that is pretty stupid. I have an older Dell labtop (bought it in July 2003) and checked the serial number. My battery should be fine. They did only say that you couldn't use it, not that you couldn't carry it on the plane. Either way, whoever made that decision at Korean Air is an idiot.
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rocklee



Joined: 04 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4 months left wrote:
Lizara wrote:
This is completely ridiculous. I don't know about Dell, but I seem to remember reading that the latest Apple battery recall was because something like six people complained about their laptops getting too hot. There were definitely no fires involved.


Batteries were made by Sony for both Dell & Apple.

Apple Joins Dell In Sony Battery Recall
http://www.forbes.com/markets/currencies/2006/08/24/apple-sony-batteries-cx_rr_0824apple.html


"Exploding" Dell Laptop Destroys Truck
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/08/dell_fire.html

Dell Laptop Blamed for House Fire
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/08/dell_house_fire.html



There is more to the story.

It started with Apple notebooks. Then it progressed to Dell. Given the population of Dell notebooks over Apple, they should be reporting more problems.

The cause of these explosion and "inferior" batteries?

Improper use, but most importantly, poorly fitted battery by the companies themselves and not regulated according to Sony specs. The same batteries are used in Sony, Toshiba, IBM and Panasonic notebooks and they don't have problems.

They are doing the right thing with the recall, but another company Panasonic is not taking any chances and is recalling some of their notebooks to be sure. My guess is that they're not doing the battery management right, taking shortcuts to ensure longevity over reliability.

Anyway, free recall means free replacements for new batteries Smile
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JongnoGuru



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fear no more! Help has arrived!

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Fire Retardant MacBook Wraps
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"Wrappers jumbocord covers for Apple's MacBook are made from contract quality corduroy. Contract quality means the fabric has passed a 100,000 wear and tear rub test. The fire retardant backing uses the latest graphite granule technology, which as well as a safety benefit, prevents the corduroy loosing its shape over time. Sleeves have a layer of cushioning for added protection and a chestnut coloured microfibre lining."
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Roch



Joined: 24 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JongnoGuru wrote:
Heck fiddly, just don't fly KAL! Regardless of the laptop policy, just don't fly them!!!


You must be punished.
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flotsam



Joined: 28 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roch wrote:
JongnoGuru wrote:
Heck fiddly, just don't fly KAL! Regardless of the laptop policy, just don't fly them!!!


You must be punished.


Second.

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