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Teaching 'ESL' in Korea
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What do you teach?
ESL
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
EFL
48%
 48%  [ 14 ]
EAP
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
English!
27%
 27%  [ 8 ]
Other
17%
 17%  [ 5 ]
Total Votes : 29

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gang ah jee



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:26 pm    Post subject: Teaching 'ESL' in Korea Reply with quote
Yes, I know it doesn't really matter to 99% of people in the industry in Korea, but if I was on a hiring commitee somewhere and had applicants claiming to have taught 'ESL' in Korea (or Japan, China, etc) I would have serious doubts about them. And I realise that this would probably include Dave Sperling.

Am I the only one with inappropriately strong feelings about this?

For the record I teach EAP at the moment, but not in Korea.

I can't believe I'm actually making a poll about this. So pathetic
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Teaching 'ESL' in Korea Reply with quote
gang ah jee wrote:

Am I the only one with inappropriately strong feelings about this?




I sure as hell don't give a toss.
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Paji eh Wong



Joined: 03 Jun 2003
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Its pretty sad when we can't agree on a word for what we do. I think we should make one. Tingle. "I tingle people".
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gang ah jee



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Teaching 'ESL' in Korea Reply with quote
SPINOZA wrote:
I sure as hell don't give a toss.

Somehow I'm not surprised that an anti-intellectual such as yourself isn't concerned about pedantry such as this.

Paji eh Wong wrote:
Its pretty sad when we can't agree on a word for what we do. I think we should make one. Tingle. "I tingle people".

It certainly is an attractive suggestion, but is all tingling equivalent? For example, might we not tingle people differently when they have no opportunities to be tingled through immersion outside of the classroom? Might not people in Korea have different tingling needs to people in countries where English is spoken? Do we tingle resettled refugees the same as we tingle Japanese who just need some tingling before they go travelling? You get the idea.

Edit: in NZ it's ESOL - English for Speakers of Other Languages.
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hellsbells



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
You do seem to be posting a lot these days gang ah jee. You bored over there or something?
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gang ah jee



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
hellsbells wrote:
You do seem to be posting a lot these days gang ah jee. You bored over there or something?

It's not boredom, it's procrastination. Why haven't I heard from you before now?
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indytrucks



Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf
PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I teach EFL with a smattering of ESP courses thrown in. Better?

For those that are truly confused, click here. Some things don't apply to here, but you'll get the gist.
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun
PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
How about English as a New Language or English Language Development?
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ELT
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I found that in the US, at least where I'm from, a lot of employers have no clue what ESL or EFL are.

It makes the interviews so much fun:

Them: "So you worked..." (Moving resume back and forth and widening his/her eyes as if it's hard to read) "...in Korea? What's EFL?"

Me: "English as a Foreign Language"

Them: "Wow, that's great! Well, I can't use this reference because it's in Korea...I don't think they'll use English"

Me: "Actually, my former boss speaks quite fluently. The other one is an Australian I worked with"

Them: "Ah, OK...Well, we'll be conducting more interviews, and we'll be making calls next week"

Me: "Why don't you just admit that you have no clue about anything outside of your realm of weekend football, pork rinds, working, and taking a shit twice a day?" (What I've wanted to say before)
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