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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the UAE has an even higher ratio, it is really disgusting. something like 2:1.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
the UAE has an even higher ratio, it is really disgusting. something like 2:1.

Wow...do you know why that is? Shocked
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

214 men/100 women according to the economist's world in figures- 2006. I am guessing it is due to the high number of south asian expats there who send their money back home to support their families. I am not sure if that figure is for the total population or just emirate citizens. I hope this is the explanation for it. If not, then that really is horrific.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChuckECheese wrote:
mindmetoo wrote:
Korea has a couple cohorts where it's about 115 boys to 100 girls. I think Vietnam has more females than males.


Yes they do. Vietnam is the largest exporter of women in the world today.

The majority of their population is made up of young people who were born after the Vietnam War. The majority of women are very beautiful and young, mostly less than 30 years of age, highly and exportable to many men in Korea.



Does anyone else find this terminology the "export" of women, and the description of "beautiful and young" Vietamese women as "highly exportable" a bit offensive besides me? Are they bushels of corn? BMW's? I suppose that the "transaction" does take place but is it really like a commodities market? I can't help but think of slavery.
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i think that's part of his point. it can be rather unpleasant and nasty.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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the UAE has an even higher ratio, it is really disgusting. something like 2:1


The figure you quoted is for the total population including numerous single male expat workers. The Economist's list I believe does not examine birth rates, and this therefore does not compare to the uneven birth rates in China, Taiwan, Singapore, India, and Korea.

Does anyone have a link to a list of countries with gender imbalances of newborns? Interesting topic...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atassi wrote:

Does anyone have a link to a list of countries with gender imbalances of newborns? Interesting topic...


yep. Note that 1.05 is the average ratio.

Sex ratio - at birth(male(s)/female) 2006
Data source: 2006 CIA World Factbook


1 Armenia 1.17
2 Georgia 1.15
3 China 1.12
4 Taiwan 1.10
4 Albania 1.10
5 San Marino 1.09
6 Venezuela 1.08
6 Hong Kong 1.08
6 Jersey 1.08
6 Macedonia 1.08
6 Korea, South 1.08
6 Serbia and Montenegro 1.08
6 Singapore 1.08
7 Tunisia 1.07
7 Ukraine 1.07
7 Vietnam 1.07
7 Italy 1.07
7 Ireland 1.07
7 Luxembourg 1.07
7 Malaysia 1.07
7 Portugal 1.07
7 Andorra 1.07
7 Bosnia and Herzegovina 1.07
7 Saint Lucia 1.07
7 Slovenia 1.07
7 Spain 1.07
7 Saint Pierre and Miquelon 1.07
8 Virgin Islands 1.06
8 Syria 1.06
8 Sweden 1.06
8 World 1.06
8 West Bank 1.06
8 Guam 1.06
8 Hungary 1.06
8 Greece 1.06
8 Jordan 1.06
8 Malta 1.06
8 Lithuania 1.06
8 Kazakhstan 1.06
8 Denmark 1.06
8 Gibraltar 1.06
8 Czech Republic 1.06
8 Germany 1.06
8 Estonia 1.06
8 Northern Mariana Islands 1.06
8 Palau 1.06
8 Bangladesh 1.06
8 American Samoa 1.06
8 Burma 1.06
8 Cuba 1.06
8 Brunei 1.06
8 Bulgaria 1.06
8 Croatia 1.06
8 Poland 1.06
8 Saint Kitts and Nevis 1.06
8 Romania 1.06
8 Russia 1.06
9 Switzerland 1.05
9 Thailand 1.05
9 Tuvalu 1.05
9 Tajikistan 1.05
9 United Kingdom 1.05
9 Trinidad and Tobago 1.05
9 Turkey 1.05
9 United Arab Emirates 1.05
9 Vanuatu 1.05
9 Suriname 1.05
9 Turkmenistan 1.05
9 Uzbekistan 1.05
9 Turks and Caicos Islands 1.05
9 Tonga 1.05
9 United States 1.05
9 Yemen 1.05
9 Indonesia 1.05
9 India 1.05
9 Honduras 1.05
9 Iraq 1.05
9 Isle of Man 1.05
9 Iran 1.05
9 Jamaica 1.05
9 Japan 1.05
9 Guadeloupe 1.05
9 Guyana 1.05
9 Israel 1.05
9 Guatemala 1.05
9 Latvia 1.05
9 Kiribati 1.05
9 Marshall Islands 1.05
9 Mexico 1.05
9 Maldives 1.05
9 Macau 1.05
9 Korea, North 1.05
9 Moldova 1.05
9 Lebanon 1.05
9 Libya 1.05
9 Kyrgyzstan 1.05
9 Egypt 1.05
9 Fiji 1.05
9 Dominica 1.05
9 East Timor 1.05
9 French Polynesia 1.05
9 Ecuador 1.05
9 Dominican Republic 1.05
9 El Salvador 1.05
9 French Guiana 1.05
9 France 1.05
9 Gaza Strip 1.05
9 Pakistan 1.05
9 Papua New Guinea 1.05
9 Monaco 1.05
9 Netherlands Antilles 1.05
9 Nicaragua 1.05
9 Panama 1.05
9 Netherlands 1.05
9 Oman 1.05
9 Norway 1.05
9 Philippines 1.05
9 Montserrat 1.05
9 Morocco 1.05
9 Mongolia 1.05
9 Nauru 1.05
9 New Caledonia 1.05
9 Paraguay 1.05
9 Nepal 1.05
9 Peru 1.05
9 Aruba 1.05
9 Belarus 1.05
9 Angola 1.05
9 Algeria 1.05
9 Bolivia 1.05
9 Austria 1.05
9 Azerbaijan 1.05
9 Antigua and Barbuda 1.05
9 Belgium 1.05
9 Australia 1.05
9 Argentina 1.05
9 Bhutan 1.05
9 Belize 1.05
9 Afghanistan 1.05
9 Cambodia 1.05
9 British Virgin Islands 1.05
9 Brazil 1.05
9 Canada 1.05
9 Costa Rica 1.05
9 Chile 1.05
9 Solomon Islands 1.05
9 Qatar 1.05
9 Sudan 1.05
9 Sri Lanka 1.05
9 Samoa 1.05
9 Saudi Arabia 1.05
9 Reunion 1.05
9 Puerto Rico 1.05
9 Saint Helena 1.05
9 Slovakia 1.05
10 Uruguay 1.04
10 Iceland 1.04
10 Guernsey 1.04
10 Kuwait 1.04
10 Laos 1.04
10 Finland 1.04
10 New Zealand 1.04
10 Chad 1.04
11 Tanzania 1.03
11 Togo 1.03
11 Uganda 1.03
11 Swaziland 1.03
11 Zambia 1.03
11 Zimbabwe 1.03
11 Haiti 1.03
11 Guinea 1.03
11 Guinea-Bissau 1.03
11 Lesotho 1.03
11 Mauritania 1.03
11 Mali 1.03
11 Madagascar 1.03
11 Malawi 1.03
11 Mayotte 1.03
11 Liberia 1.03
11 Eritrea 1.03
11 Equatorial Guinea 1.03
11 Gambia, The 1.03
11 Ethiopia 1.03
11 Gabon 1.03
11 Djibouti 1.03
11 Ghana 1.03
11 Mozambique 1.03
11 Nigeria 1.03
11 Niger 1.03
11 Namibia 1.03
11 Anguilla 1.03
11 Burundi 1.03
11 Benin 1.03
11 Bahrain 1.03
11 Burkina Faso 1.03
11 Congo, Democratic Republic of the 1.03
11 Colombia 1.03
11 Cameroon 1.03
11 Congo, Republic of the 1.03
11 Central African Republic 1.03
11 Cape Verde 1.03
11 Botswana 1.03
11 Comoros 1.03
11 Cote d'Ivoire 1.03
11 Rwanda 1.03
11 Sao Tome and Principe 1.03
11 Senegal 1.03
11 Somalia 1.03
11 Seychelles 1.03
11 Sierra Leone 1.03
12 Greenland 1.02
12 Mauritius 1.02
12 Martinique 1.02
12 Kenya 1.02
12 Bahamas, The 1.02
12 Bermuda 1.02
12 Cayman Islands 1.02
12 South Africa 1.02
13 Liechtenstein 1.01
13 Barbados 1.01
14 Grenada 1.00
14 Faroe Islands 1.00

http://www.photius.com/rankings/population/sex_ratio_at_birth_2006_0.html

Other Sources

http://education.yahoo.com/reference/factbook/countrycompare/sr/1a.html;_ylt=AjYwOMMh9990pihJmWssDuHPecYF

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_ratio

https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/fields/2018.html

These are from 2000, 1975 and 1950. Note that South korea has always been near the top.

http://dataranking.com/English/po01-4.html
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Junior



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sex ratio - total population(male(s)/female) 2006

1 Qatar 1.87
2 Kuwait 1.52
3 United Arab Emirates 1.43
4 Samoa 1.39
5 Bahrain 1.26
6 Oman 1.25
7 Saudi Arabia 1.20
8 Palau 1.13
9 Greenland 1.12
9 French Guiana 1.12
10 Jordan 1.10
10 Mayotte 1.10
11 Brunei 1.09
12 Grenada 1.08
12 Andorra 1.08
13 Turks and Caicos Islands 1.07
13 Trinidad and Tobago 1.07
13 French Polynesia 1.07
13 Bhutan 1.07
14 India 1.06
14 Nepal 1.06
14 American Samoa 1.06
14 China 1.06
15 Vanuatu 1.05
15 Syria 1.05
15 Maldives 1.05
15 Libya 1.05
15 Djibouti 1.05
15 Faroe Islands 1.05
15 Papua New Guinea 1.05
15 Niger 1.05
15 Pakistan 1.05
15 Afghanistan 1.05
15 Bangladesh 1.05
15 British Virgin Islands 1.05
16 Suriname 1.04
16 Taiwan 1.04
16 Yemen 1.04
16 West Bank 1.04
16 Iran 1.04
16 Guam 1.04
16 Marshall Islands 1.04
16 East Timor 1.04
16 Gaza Strip 1.04
16 Albania 1.04
17 Dominican Republic 1.03
17 Anguilla 1.03
17 Belize 1.03
17 Saint Helena 1.03
17 Solomon Islands 1.03
18 Venezuela 1.02
18 Tunisia 1.02
18 Turkey 1.02
18 Iraq 1.02
18 Egypt 1.02
18 Nigeria 1.02
18 Panama 1.02
18 Algeria 1.02
18 Angola 1.02
18 Costa Rica 1.02
18 Sudan 1.02
19 World 1.01
19 Guyana 1.01
19 Honduras 1.01
19 Malaysia 1.01
19 Korea, South 1.01
19 Kenya 1.01
19 Fiji 1.01
19 Gibraltar 1.01
19 Dominica 1.01
19 Namibia 1.01
19 New Caledonia 1.01
19 Peru 1.01
19 Paraguay 1.01
19 Cameroon 1.01
19 Saint Pierre and Miquelon 1.01
20 Uganda 1.00
20 Zimbabwe 1.00
20 Guinea 1.00
20 Iceland 1.00
20 Indonesia 1.00
20 Macedonia 1.00
20 Macedonia 1.00
20 Macedonia 1.00
20 Ghana 1.00
20 Ecuador 1.00
20 Ethiopia 1.00
20 Gambia, The 1.00
20 Nauru 1.00
20 Mongolia 1.00
20 Nicaragua 1.00
20 Philippines 1.00
20 Antigua and Barbuda 1.00
20 Cote d'Ivoire 1.00
20 Somalia 1.00
20 Senegal 1.00
________________________________________________________

Disparity: more females than males:

21 Tajikistan 0.99
21 Tonga 0.99
21 Zambia 0.99
21 Israel 0.99
21 Guatemala 0.99
21 Ireland 0.99
21 Malta 0.99
21 Liberia 0.99
21 Madagascar 0.99
21 Malawi 0.99
21 Martinique 0.99
21 Kiribati 0.99
21 Gabon 0.99
21 Eritrea 0.99
21 New Zealand 0.99
21 Morocco 0.99
21 Burundi 0.99
21 Burkina Faso 0.99
21 Australia 0.99
21 Cuba 0.99
21 Congo, Republic of the 0.99
21 Congo, Democratic Republic of the 0.99
21 Comoros 0.99
21 Saint Kitts and Nevis 0.99
21 Rwanda 0.99
22 Tanzania 0.98
22 Uzbekistan 0.98
22 Turkmenistan 0.98
22 Sweden 0.98
22 Vietnam 0.98
22 United Kingdom 0.98
22 Thailand 0.98

22 Jamaica 0.98
22 Mali 0.98
22 Laos 0.98
22 Mauritania 0.98
22 Denmark 0.98
22 Netherlands 0.98
22 Norway 0.98
22 Benin 0.98
22 Bolivia 0.98
22 Brazil 0.98
22 Chile 0.98
22 Canada 0.98
22 Central African Republic 0.98
22 Reunion 0.98
22 Sao Tome and Principe 0.98
23 Switzerland 0.97
23 United States 0.97
23 Jersey 0.97
23 Haiti 0.97
23 Guadeloupe 0.97
23 Mauritius 0.97
23 Luxembourg 0.97
23 Mozambique 0.97
23 Argentina 0.97
23 Bosnia and Herzegovina 0.97
23 Burma 0.97
23 Saint Lucia 0.97
23 Serbia and Montenegro 0.97
24 Togo 0.96
24 Hong Kong 0.96
24 Greece 0.96
24 Italy 0.96
24 Mexico 0.96
24 Kyrgyzstan 0.96
24 Equatorial Guinea 0.96
24 Germany 0.96
24 Finland 0.96
24 European Union 0.96
24 Montserrat 0.96
24 Bahamas, The 0.96
24 Belgium 0.96
24 Bermuda 0.96
24 Chad 0.96
24 Cayman Islands 0.96
24 Botswana 0.96
24 Colombia 0.96
24 Spain 0.96
24 Sri Lanka 0.96
24 Singapore 0.96
25 Tuvalu 0.95
25 Uruguay 0.95
25 Swaziland 0.95
25 Japan 0.95
25 Isle of Man 0.95
25 Liechtenstein 0.95
25 Lesotho 0.95
25 Czech Republic 0.95
25 El Salvador 0.95
25 France 0.95
25 Portugal 0.95
25 Austria 0.95
25 Cape Verde 0.95
25 Cambodia 0.95
25 Slovenia 0.95
25 South Africa 0.95
25 Romania 0.95
26 Guernsey 0.94
26 Guinea-Bissau 0.94
26 Korea, North 0.94
26 Lebanon 0.94
26 Azerbaijan 0.94
26 Barbados 0.94
26 Poland 0.94
26 Sierra Leone 0.94
26 Slovakia 0.94
27 Kazakhstan 0.93
27 Netherlands Antilles 0.93
27 Aruba 0.93
27 Croatia 0.93
27 Bulgaria 0.93
27 Seychelles 0.93
28 Macau 0.92
28 San Marino 0.92
28 Puerto Rico 0.92
29 Virgin Islands 0.91
29 Hungary 0.91
29 Moldova 0.91
29 Georgia 0.91
29 Monaco 0.91
30 Armenia 0.90
31 Lithuania 0.89
32 Belarus 0.88
33 Ukraine 0.86
33 Latvia 0.86
33 Russia 0.86
34 Estonia 0.84
35 Northern Mariana Islands 0.77

http://www.photius.com/rankings/population/sex_ratio_total_population_2006_0.html
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Atassi



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good info, thanks. But, why is the ratio above 1 for each country, and why is the average 1.05? I believe the average should naturally be less than 1 (more females).

I didn't know that countries in other regions of the world have the same problem China now faces.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atassi wrote:
Good info, thanks. But, why is the ratio above 1 for each country, and why is the average 1.05? I believe the average should naturally be less than 1 (more females).

I didn't know that countries in other regions of the world have the same problem China now faces.


Males and females are produced in approximately equal numbers in most species with separate sexes, regardless of the mechanism of sex determination.

The global average for humans is that 105 males are born for every 100 females. This ratio may be different at conception. It could be that female embryos are more likely to be miscarried

It is not clear how parental effort in raising children is linked to the way that a fetus's sex is determined as an embryo.

The reasons are not exactly known..For an interesting overview of the topic, this is good..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_ratio

The first listing (above) is for ratio at birth only. The second shows the number of actual males vs females in the population now. So..South Korea (because of its selective abortion) produces a high ratio- 108 boys to every 100 girls at birth. However this has not yet caught up with the population demographics now, (except in the recent, younger generation).
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can the strong Eastern European representation in the <1 category be attributed to a large number of the able bodied male population working elsewhere in Europe to send money home (amongst other things)?

Or is there just something in the water? :D

jae.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaebea wrote:
Can the strong Eastern European representation in the <1 category be attributed to a large number of the able bodied male population working elsewhere in Europe to send money home (amongst other things)?

Or is there just something in the water? Very Happy

jae.


At least in Russia, maybe others too, the men have in recent times drunk themselves into early graves. The numbers are startling actually.
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Junior



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaebea wrote:
Can the strong Eastern European representation in the <1 category be attributed to a large number of the able bodied male population working elsewhere in Europe to send money home (amongst other things)?

Or is there just something in the water? Very Happy

jae.


I also heard in parts of eastern europe it is common to not register a birth until the infant has survived 7 days first. thus, a lot of infant mortality goes unreported. In harsh or poor conditions it may be that more male infants survive than females. who knows?

it fascinates me actually. bearing in mind the sex of reptiles depends on the temperature the eggs develop in... I wonder why some nations have a higher ratio of females at birth?

Quote the wikipedia:

"Reported sex ratios at birth -- outside the typical range of 103:100 to 107:100 -- thus call for an explanation of some kind. In other populations that have witnessed declining sex ratios, researchers have suggested that ecological factors may be at work. In all such reports, it is important to exclude plausible alternative explanations"

Sex selective abortions aside..you are left with ecological factors. I heard once that the hormones injected into beef had affected sex ratios in the population of humans.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Russia and China have opposite problems. My guess will be that Russian women will start pouring more into there Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the article is missing the untold numbers of undocumented girl babies.

I'm not saying it evens out, but I'm pretty sure a lot of girls being born are off the books.
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