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laogaiguk
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 Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:12 am Post subject: Missionary style... |
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Patricia, is a Taiwanese, who attended Sheng-tze Christian College as a Buddhist. Her aim was to learn to speak English. The foreign teachers took time to minister to Patricia and after she graduated she became a Christian. Eventually, Patricia's whole family came to know Christ, and are all faithfully serving the Lord in their local church.
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Found this, really makes me realize just how low my opinion of missionaries is. I can't post the link because the thread would be pulled.
I also saw two suited white missionaries literally annyoing some teenager walking along. THey were surrounding him and he was trying to get away but they followed and one kept going infront of him to block him.  |
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Bibbitybop
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:27 am Post subject: |
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Why would the thread get pulled if you posted a link?
Having some stranger talk to you about religion can be annoying, but it's free speech.
Also, you have to understand that when someone tries to talk to you about converting, they believe they are saving your soul. 90% honestly do care about you in some strange, soul-saving way. I simply ignore them, tell them I'm not interested, or if in a good mood, engage them in discussion. I'm happy to live in a country that allows freedom of religion. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:32 am Post subject: |
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Why would the thread get pulled if you posted a link?
Having some stranger talk to you about religion can be annoying, but it's free speech.
Also, you have to understand that when someone tries to talk to you about converting, they believe they are saving your soul. 90% honestly do care about you in some strange, soul-saving way. I simply ignore them, tell them I'm not interested, or if in a good mood, engage them in discussion. I'm happy to live in a country that allows freedom of religion. |
Freedom of religion, and to talk about it, but not in a classroom (I wish I could tell you why it would be pulled, but obviously I can't  ) where there is no place for it. Also, did you read about the teenager, that is not too far off from assault, and either way is not something that is socially acceptable. Come up to me and ask, but where I like they have the freedom to ask, I also like the freedom to say no and not be harrassed.
And to many missionaries I have met in Asia (I don't know about other, like African ones who are probably better), some are about numbers. I have even heard 2 different conversations where they were bragging about how many converts they had thorugh their career like it was sales!
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:37 am Post subject: Re: Missionary style... |
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Patricia, is a Taiwanese, who attended Sheng-tze Christian College as a Buddhist. Her aim was to learn to speak English. The foreign teachers took time to minister to Patricia and after she graduated she became a Christian. Eventually, Patricia's whole family came to know Christ, and are all faithfully serving the Lord in their local church.
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Found this, really makes me realize just how low my opinion of missionaries is. I can't post the link because the thread would be pulled. |
She attended a Christian College. What do you expect them to do? Not try to convert her? Do you assume she didn't want to be converted and they forced her to? Would you be as upset if a Christian came to Korea and converted to Buddhism or Confuscism? |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:41 am Post subject: Re: Missionary style... |
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Patricia, is a Taiwanese, who attended Sheng-tze Christian College as a Buddhist. Her aim was to learn to speak English. The foreign teachers took time to minister to Patricia and after she graduated she became a Christian. Eventually, Patricia's whole family came to know Christ, and are all faithfully serving the Lord in their local church.
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Found this, really makes me realize just how low my opinion of missionaries is. I can't post the link because the thread would be pulled. |
She attended a Christian College. What do you expect them to do? Not try to convert her? Do you assume she didn't want to be converted and they forced her to? Would you be as upset if a Christian came to Korea and converted to Buddhism or Confuscism? |
Ok, I should refine my statement. THese people don't realize it at all. To them Christian just means Western. I guess it is ignorance on their part for not knowing, but I still think it is dishonest. There should never be any catch with education, though there often is.
I'd be fricken happy if more Westerners converted to Buddhism. That's atleast a start in the right direction |
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Junior
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:42 am Post subject: |
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| Also, did you read about the teenager, that is not too far off from assault |
Come off it..! Then should i sue every korean that bumps into me and walks in front of me every day??
Its called free speech. If you're not interested, just give a polite "no thankyou" and move on. I really doubt that you saw them standing in his way and blocking his path. Slight exxageration on your part, no?
My guess is that you'd like to see harmless christians locked away for handing leaflets on the street, but you'd welcome muslim beheadings "because its their religion".
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| they were bragging about how many converts they had thorugh their career like it was sales! |
How can you sell a free gift?
Think B4 you post! |
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laogaiguk
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:46 am Post subject: |
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| Also, did you read about the teenager, that is not too far off from assault |
Come off it..! Then should i sue every korean that bumps into me and walks in front of me every day??
Its called free speech. If you're not interested, just give a polite "no thankyu" and move on. I really doubt that yu saw them standing in his way and blocking his path. Slight exxageration on your part, no?
My guess is that you'd like to see harmless christians locked away for handing leaflets on the street, but you'd welcome muslim beheadings "because its their religion".
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| they were bragging about how many converts they had thorugh their career like it was sales! |
How can you sell a free gift?
Think B4 you post! |
He was saying no, or atleast trying to get away. I already said this. There is NO exageration on my part, and I am sure others have seen stuff like that too. It was forceful and intential. I am talking about the number of "sales" or "converts" Fine, let me put it another way, they were braggin about converts like some do "girls" they slept with.
The Koreans don't continue to do it and aren't doing it on purpose trying to stop you.
What I would like to see is all you Christian finally growing up past your stupid tooth fairy and story book, or atleast leave those of us smart enough alone |
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matthews_world
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:47 am Post subject: Re: Missionary style... |
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Is this thread just reason for you use your header to try to be cute in a subjugated round-about way? Other than that, this thread is basically worthless as #@%$ as what you've describe has been going on for years. We need some meat to chew on, brother! |
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laogaiguk
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:50 am Post subject: Re: Missionary style... |
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| thread would be pulled. |
Is this thread just reason for you use your header to try to be cute in a subjugated round-about way? Other than that, this thread is basically worthless as #@%$ as what you've describe has been going on for years. We need some meat to chew on, brother! |
Missionaries are annoying asses. In Japan, they knocked on my door for 20 minutes, hearing the TV. I knew who they were so ignored the, then told them to leave after 5 minutes. THis happened several times. I was also stopped several times, half the time allowed to just say no and walk away. The other half though they followed me bothering me until I made it to work of the station. Yes, I have a beef with them, because they are annoying SOBs.
But I won't limit it just to Christians. I had Jehovah's Witnesses come and knock on our door on Christmas Morning once in Canada! Who the hell is that disrespectful (my family being Christian). |
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Junior
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:58 am Post subject: Re: Missionary style... |
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| The other half though they followed me bothering me until I made it to work of the station. |
You simply have to say "Not interested thanks" and walk on. Then they would leave you. How hard would that be? |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:00 am Post subject: Re: Missionary style... |
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| The other half though they followed me bothering me until I made it to work of the station. |
You simply have to say "Not interested thanks" and walk on. Then they would leave you. How hard would that be? |
Holy crap Junior. For the love of your imaginary god, learn to read. I said half the time that worked. Obviously, the other half I did the same yet they still followed me. How in the hell did even someone of your limited intelligence not get that? |
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Junior
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:05 am Post subject: Re: Missionary style... |
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| laogaiguk wrote: |
| How in the hell did even someone of your limited intelligence not get that? |
To be honest your silly posts turn me comatose after the first sentence. They're enough to ridicule but not read the whole way through.  |
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laogaiguk
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:08 am Post subject: Re: Missionary style... |
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| How in the hell did even someone of your limited intelligence not get that? |
To be honest your silly posts turn me comatose after the first sentence. They're enough to ridicule but not read the whole way through. |
You didn't answer. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:22 am Post subject: Re: Missionary style... |
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Ok, I should refine my statement. THese people don't realize it at all. To them Christian just means Western. I guess it is ignorance on their part for not knowing, but I still think it is dishonest. |
Ok. At least you're not being patronizing.
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| There should never be any catch with education, though there often is. |
Well, we've discussed this before and I know there's no coming to an agreement on it. But I'd say that education with a catch (within reason of course) is better than no education at all. And I am refering to a catch that is voluntarily agreed to. Just so that's clear.
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| What I would like to see is all you Christian finally growing up past your stupid tooth fairy and story book, or atleast leave those of us smart enough alone |
Do you assume that everyone disagreeing with you is a Christian? |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:25 am Post subject: Re: Missionary style... |
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| laogaiguk wrote: |
Ok, I should refine my statement. THese people don't realize it at all. To them Christian just means Western. I guess it is ignorance on their part for not knowing, but I still think it is dishonest. |
Ok. At least you're not being patronizing.
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| There should never be any catch with education, though there often is. |
Well, we've discussed this before and I know there's no coming to an agreement on it. But I'd say that education with a catch (within reason of course) is better than no education at all. And I am refering to a catch that is voluntarily agreed to. Just so that's clear.
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| What I would like to see is all you Christian finally growing up past your stupid tooth fairy and story book, or atleast leave those of us smart enough alone |
Do you assume that everyone disagreeing with you is a Christian? |
FIrst two things, no problems. The third one though, I refined it later to say religious people. But in my world, it seems only to be the Christians who bother me. I have never, NEVER been even approached by a Buddhist, a Hindu (unless you count Rteacher's posts, though he is Hare Krishna) or even a Muslim. |
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