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dbee
Joined: 29 Dec 2004
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 Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:10 am Post subject: Job ads on daves ... |
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I put up an ad for a job near me on dave's Korean job board. And I got one response ONLY. And that was from a 60 year old black dude who didn't know his email address.
Is that strange ? or has the Nuke up North thing scared all the teachers away ? |
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Meggiebea
Joined: 20 Oct 2006
Location: Uijeongbu, South Korea
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| LOL Almost scared me away. But I'll tell you I was sure a lot more picky once the nuke testing started. I honestly don't think there is any danger and I knew I would be able to find a better job at great pay. |
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JeJuJitsu
Joined: 11 Sep 2005
Location: McDonald's
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:25 am Post subject: Re: Job ads on daves ... |
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| dbee wrote: |
I put up an ad for a job near me on dave's Korean job board. And I got one response ONLY. And that was from a 60 year old black dude who didn't know his email address.
Is that strange ? or has the Nuke up North thing scared all the teachers away ? |
Good news. Looking at maybe (?) 3.0 starting next contract go-around. Nice. Combination of NK nukes and SK's reputation. |
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Kimchieluver
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| It was election day today in the US. Maybe that has something to do with it. |
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:12 am Post subject: |
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| What's wrong with a 60 year old black dude? Or rather, why was it neccessary to point out those particular characteristics? |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:20 am Post subject: Re: Job ads on daves ... |
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| dbee wrote: |
I put up an ad for a job near me on dave's Korean job board. And I got one response ONLY. And that was from a 60 year old black dude who didn't know his email address.
Is that strange ? or has the Nuke up North thing scared all the teachers away ? |
Sounds like it was either:
a) so substandard that no-one was interested,
b) located so far from civilization that no-one was interested even if it was superior,
c) so standard and equal same/same to all the others that there was nothing to make it stand out from the crowd so no offers.
There are thousands of postings every month for teachers.
Ask yourself, "In a competetive market, why would anyone consider our offer above another?"
If you can't think of any good reason, based on your offer/advertisement, then you have your answer. |
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Nemo
Joined: 28 May 2006
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:38 am Post subject: Re: Job ads on daves ... |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| Ask yourself, "In a competetive market, why would anyone consider our offer above another?" |
The school pays you on time.   |
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Areut
Joined: 18 Sep 2006
Location: Behind You!!!!
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:45 am Post subject: Re: Job ads on daves ... |
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| dbee wrote: |
I put up an ad for a job near me on dave's Korean job board. And I got one response ONLY. And that was from a 60 year old black dude who didn't know his email address.
Is that strange ? or has the Nuke up North thing scared all the teachers away ? |
Which ad is your ad? |
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dreaming_saturn
Joined: 26 May 2004
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Hmm, I did something similar recently and got a few good candidates, at least in my opinion, but the problem is the director is picky, and seems to be only looking at the pictures! So, my advice to people is to get the best photo possible. I cannot emphasize this enough.
In addition, I keep getting over-qualified people for what the job is - teaching adults, split shift, basic pay;a good starter kind of position for someone who wants to teach adults...... and most people aren't really reading the ad and ask me questions that are clearly answered.
I think you need a good opening line to get interest and just state the conditions, most people aren't reading the ad anyway. If I did it again that's what I'd do. |
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ChuckECheese
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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It's very competitive labor (English teacher) market out there. There are more jobs out there than teachers. They are mostly crappy offers.
If you are offering same level of pay and types of benefits as the other schools, guess what, you most likely are not going to get a lot of hits from teachers.
Try offering something unique like 3 million/month, free fully furnished single apt with all bills paid with housekeeper, 2 months of vacation, guaranteed quarterly bonus, 80 teaching hours/month, etc. etc. etc....
You'll get our attention real quick. Save your headache and offer us something better than other crappy offers. |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:41 am Post subject: |
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| Combination of NK nukes and SK's reputation. |
A little from column "A" and A LOT from column "B"- these Korean hogwan owners have burned too many people and they have earned their bad reputations. |
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hubba bubba
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| Maybe people started thinking... "Hmm, if I babysit full time back home, I can make more than two thousand US a month..." |
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dbee
Joined: 29 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:51 am Post subject: |
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What's wrong with a 60 year old black dude? Or rather, why was it neccessary to point out those particular characteristics?
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... I never said there was anything wrong with him. Although I was a little exasperated that he sent the wrong email address. And the picture he sent was upside down and placed him in the very back of a dark room.
Nothing wrong with being 60, nothing wrong with being black. But those were the most distinguishable features that I could remember. And my tone was defeatist because of the quality of his application... |
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BigBuds
Joined: 15 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:54 am Post subject: |
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| ChopChaeJoe wrote: |
| What's wrong with a 60 year old black dude? Or rather, why was it neccessary to point out those particular characteristics? |
Nothing is wrong with a 60 year old black dude from our point of view but from a Korean's point of view everything is wrong with a 60 year old black dude.
Unfortunately, ageism and racism play a big part in hiring practices in this country.
If you've been in Korea long enough, you'd know this, that's probably why he/she pointed this out. From a Korean point of view this is probably the worst type of applicant they could hope for.
Okay, just noticed he/she beat me to the explanation but what I said is still true in Korea unfortunately. |
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babtangee
Joined: 18 Dec 2004
Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:53 am Post subject: |
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| ChopChaeJoe wrote: |
| What's wrong with a 60 year old black dude? Or rather, why was it neccessary to point out those particular characteristics? |
Nothing is wrong with a 60 year old black dude from our point of view but from a Korean's point of view everything is wrong with a 60 year old black dude.
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Yes, as BB stated, those particular characteristics are relevant in this case.
So, dbee, got any more applicants yet?
I was curious to see that the job boards here no longer show the number of hits a particular job post has got. The number of hits most jobs got here used to be very impressive. Now... no idea how many hits they are getting. Can't be a good sign, removing that feature. [Sir modder, please, don't delete my whole post... just the offending section.] |
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