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pastis

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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| laogaiguk wrote: |
| Anyways, preachy vegetarians, not only are you annoying as hell and usually deserve to never be invited out to anything, you are hurting your cause by doing so. |
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pastis

Joined: 20 Jun 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Anyone also realize that the overt vegetarians on this board (ie taking out Hater Depot, Kermo, etc) are fundamentally wacko? |
What I notice is you ain't that clever. Quit playing to the crowd and focus on how I've been discrediting you. Stay on topic. |
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pastis

Joined: 20 Jun 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Pastis, BTW, what's with the picture? What's the relevance here? |
No relevance, merely a joke. |
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ella

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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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I've been a vegetarian for 18 years. I regularly share meals with non-vegetarians and I've never preached to anyone. I spent the time and did the research before I made my decision, others can do the same.
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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If you enjoy belittling people - while resembling a giant blowfish yourself - you just might be an annoying jerk ...  |
I love that I am the only person that reduces Rteacher to "you look like a...nyah!" retorts.
Hard living life with your back to the corner and no ground beneath your feet, innit? |
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red dog

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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Vegetarians annoy people in places they shouldn't (ie at the dinner table). |
Forgive me for pointing out the obvious, but this isn't a dinner table. What often happens at dinner tables is that the topic of vegetarianism comes up inevitably -- either people see the vegetarian eating something "different," or he or she mentions it to prevent people from offering something inappropriate. Then some obnoxious nonvegetarian asks "why" and goes on to force the vegetarian to defend his or her beliefs at the dinner table -- usually the last thing the vegetarian wants to do. I mean, if you don't care and really aren't interested in hearing the reasons, why ask? |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Forgive me for pointing out the obvious, but this isn't a dinner table. What often happens at dinner tables is that the topic of vegetarianism comes up inevitably -- either people see the vegetarian eating something "different," or he or she mentions it to prevent people from offering something inappropriate. Then some obnoxious nonvegetarian asks "why" and goes on to force the vegetarian to defend his or her beliefs at the dinner table -- usually the last thing the vegetarian wants to do. I mean, if you don't care and really aren't interested in hearing the reasons, why ask? |
You're painting us all with the same brush. I've asked vegetarians "why" a few times mostly because I really was interested in the why. I think I've heard all of the reasons and arguments now so I don't ask anymore.
I've only ever get aggressive about it when it's being forced on me or popping up all over the place. |
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Rteacher

Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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It's not that I think that "flotsam" resembles a blowfish in appearance ( he's not bad looking...) The allusion was to his often getting, in my opinion, too puffed up in his condescending attacks on others.
I personally rarely take any offense at his jabs at me because I appreciate the humor and general entertainment value that they provide. However, his tenaciously insulting those who really don't apprectiate his humor at all and are personally offended is nicht so gut and should be toned way down... |
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red dog

Joined: 31 Oct 2004
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Forgive me for pointing out the obvious, but this isn't a dinner table. What often happens at dinner tables is that the topic of vegetarianism comes up inevitably -- either people see the vegetarian eating something "different," or he or she mentions it to prevent people from offering something inappropriate. Then some obnoxious nonvegetarian asks "why" and goes on to force the vegetarian to defend his or her beliefs at the dinner table -- usually the last thing the vegetarian wants to do. I mean, if you don't care and really aren't interested in hearing the reasons, why ask? |
You're painting us all with the same brush. I've asked vegetarians "why" a few times mostly because I really was interested in the why. I think I've heard all of the reasons and arguments now so I don't ask anymore.
I've only ever get aggressive about it when it's being forced on me or popping up all over the place. |
I don't mind being asked "why" if people are genuinely curious and are willing to drop the subject once they get an answer. But 90 percent of the time, when Western people ask that question, they're trying to provoke a hostile exchange or tear the other person's beliefs apart. I'm not saying all meat eaters do it (and I don't recall any Korean or Japanese meat eaters doing that to me at all), but when vegetarians eat in "mixed" company there's a very good chance of it happening. |
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red dog

Joined: 31 Oct 2004
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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It's not that I think that "flotsam" resembles a blowfish in appearance ( he's not bad looking...) The allusion was to his often getting, in my opinion, too puffed up in his condescending attacks on others.
I personally rarely take any offense at his jabs at me because I appreciate the humor and general entertainment value that they provide. However, his tenaciously insulting those who really don't apprectiate his humor at all and are personally offended is nicht so gut and should be toned way down... |
Thanks, Rteacher ... and I really don't understand why anyone appreciates that sort of "humour" at all. Some of the mods evidently do, though. |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Rteacher wrote: |
It's not that I think that "flotsam" resembles a blowfish in appearance ( he's not bad looking...) The allusion was to his often getting, in my opinion, too puffed up in his condescending attacks on others.
I personally rarely take any offense at his jabs at me because I appreciate the humor and general entertainment value that they provide. However, his tenaciously insulting those who really don't apprectiate his humor at all and are personally offended is nicht so gut and should be toned way down... |
Thanks, Rteacher ... and I really don't understand why anyone appreciates that sort of "humour" at all. Some of the mods evidently do, though. |
I think I know why some people appreciate that sort of humor...
And trust me, the Mods do not appreciate it. Not at all.
And thanks R, I am rather dashing, aren't I? I now give you 25 hours of flotsamnesty which you may take upon yourself or bestow upon another. Just PM me with the designatee. |
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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Vegetarians annoy people in places they shouldn't (ie at the dinner table). |
Forgive me for pointing out the obvious, but this isn't a dinner table. What often happens at dinner tables is that the topic of vegetarianism comes up inevitably -- either people see the vegetarian eating something "different," or he or she mentions it to prevent people from offering something inappropriate. Then some obnoxious nonvegetarian asks "why" and goes on to force the vegetarian to defend his or her beliefs at the dinner table -- usually the last thing the vegetarian wants to do. I mean, if you don't care and really aren't interested in hearing the reasons, why ask? |
This is my experience. It doesn't happen as often these days (people are getting more used to us?) but now and again some smart arse just has to start w@nking off about it. Tiresome. |
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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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| red dog wrote: |
| Forgive me for pointing out the obvious, but this isn't a dinner table. What often happens at dinner tables is that the topic of vegetarianism comes up inevitably -- either people see the vegetarian eating something "different," or he or she mentions it to prevent people from offering something inappropriate. Then some obnoxious nonvegetarian asks "why" and goes on to force the vegetarian to defend his or her beliefs at the dinner table -- usually the last thing the vegetarian wants to do. I mean, if you don't care and really aren't interested in hearing the reasons, why ask? |
You're painting us all with the same brush. I've asked vegetarians "why" a few times mostly because I really was interested in the why. I think I've heard all of the reasons and arguments now so I don't ask anymore.
I've only ever get aggressive about it when it's being forced on me or popping up all over the place. |
Beaver, I don't see (just from this post) that red dog is suggesting all meateaters are a pain in the arse. Just that in her experience some of them are. I'm sure red dog doesn't mind when people ask politely out of genuine curiosity. |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| laogaiguk wrote: |
| Anyways, preachy vegetarians, not only are you annoying as hell and usually deserve to never be invited out to anything, you are hurting your cause by doing so. |
Says the social butterfly with over 4000 posts to his name.  |
| pastis wrote: |
| What I notice is you ain't that clever. Quit playing to the crowd and focus on how I've been discrediting you. Stay on topic. |
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gweilo_farang
Joined: 23 Oct 2006
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| red dog wrote: |
| Forgive me for pointing out the obvious, but this isn't a dinner table. What often happens at dinner tables is that the topic of vegetarianism comes up inevitably -- either people see the vegetarian eating something "different," or he or she mentions it to prevent people from offering something inappropriate. Then some obnoxious nonvegetarian asks "why" and goes on to force the vegetarian to defend his or her beliefs at the dinner table -- usually the last thing the vegetarian wants to do. I mean, if you don't care and really aren't interested in hearing the reasons, why ask? |
You're painting us all with the same brush.
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Well, overgeneralizing DOES make the world a simpler place (although certainly not a more tolerant one). I suppose we should expect a bit of that (from advocates of both ideologies) in a topic entitled "Vegetarians are as annoying as Mormons".
I mean, the topic does set up the expectation for ppl to answer in a general way like the original statement, doesn't it? D
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